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Old 12-09-2012, 02:03 PM  
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It has gone beyond embarrassing

When you lose the way we did against Cleveland you suddenly find yourself staring at 2-11 and being embarrassed would be an improvement. Today we saw in a nutshell the complete and utter stupidity that Pioli has spent the better part of 4 years putting together.

We bitched about this team early in the season, gave up on them mid-way and now actually root for a loss in hopes for a good draft spot. Unfortunately a new QB, regardless of who it is or how high he is drafted, is not going to help this sorry ass compilation of fail and suck.

Think about the mess Pioli has created in just under 4 years that we now have to clean up in a hurry, somehow.

1. No QB's
2. No WR's...Bowe will walk leaving us with nothing worth a ****
3. No LT, I expect Albert to walk from this abortion
4. No DE's, Dorsey will walk and TJ still sucks
5. No punter..Colquitt can walk this year
6. No secondary, save flowers
7. 1 RB worth a shit
8. No Center worth a ****
9. No HC worth a ****
10. No OC worth a ****
11. No DC worth a ****
12. No ST coach worth a ****
13. No kicker worth a ****

So as I see it, we need at least 2 QB's, 2 WR's, a center, 2 DE's, 2 CB's, 1-2 Safetys, a HC, an OC, a DC, a ST coach, a kicker, a punter and of course a new GM

/rant off
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Old 12-10-2012, 08:14 PM   #241
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Old 12-10-2012, 08:29 PM   #242
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Old 12-11-2012, 07:24 AM   #243
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2. You and htis' being vague with the 'draft a QB already' with absolutely no mention of value or qualification wasn't my doing. I may still have a semi-functional sarcasmeter, I don't know if a 'there's a ton of assumed qualifications to my blanket hyperbolic statements you should already know'-meter has even been invented.

3. My hypothetical of a draft where Cousins was the best QB available, even early on in the draft, might be unrealistic, but it is completely defensible when someone is NEARLY SIMULTANEOUSLY stating 'draft QB, any QB, already' and 'Cousins is a guaranteed failure regardless of draft position' as Cousins, regardless of future prospects, undeniably falls under the umbrella of 'any QB.'
The value of the QB was implied. I'm not stupid, despite the fact that every time I argue with you I end up looking so.

OF COURSE I'm not going to take "any QB".

But there's at least 3, if not 5, QBs worthy of a high 1st-round grade in this draft. We're going to have a top 3 pick.

So yes, in light of all that information, which was HEAVILY IMPLIED all along, take a QB, "any QB".
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Old 12-11-2012, 08:55 AM   #244
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But there's at least 3, if not 5, QBs worthy of a high 1st-round grade in this draft. We're going to have a top 3 pick.

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Who? Right now when guys from ESPN and the NFL network are talking to scouts it seems like there aren't any QB's with a "high" first round grade.

Sure, that will change because QB's always move up the board whether warranted or not, but I think it's a stretch to say 5 will have a top 10 grade.
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Old 12-11-2012, 09:02 AM   #245
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Old 12-11-2012, 09:05 AM   #246
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Old 12-11-2012, 09:08 AM   #247
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Who? Right now when guys from ESPN and the NFL network are talking to scouts it seems like there aren't any QB's with a "high" first round grade.

Sure, that will change because QB's always move up the board whether warranted or not, but I think it's a stretch to say 5 will have a top 10 grade.
There are 3 that will have a top 10 grade.

Come draft day, there could be (not that there will be) up to 5. I say that because QBs have been over-valued the past couple of years, for sure.

It's all moot anyway.

There are AT LEAST 3 QBs worth a top pick. And we're going to have a top 3 pick, so one of them will be there when we pick. We better take them.
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Old 12-11-2012, 09:29 AM   #248
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For sure in the top 5:
Geno
Wilson

Possibly in the top 5:
Barkley
Murray

That's as far as I'm willing to go. Four ain't a bad haul if it works that way.

At the worst, you'll see probably 3 of those QBs go in the top 10, and four, five, or possibly even six QBs go in the first round.
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Old 12-11-2012, 09:44 AM   #249
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For sure in the top 5:
Geno
Wilson

Possibly in the top 5:
Barkley
Murray

That's as far as I'm willing to go. Four ain't a bad haul if it works that way.

At the worst, you'll see probably 3 of those QBs go in the top 10, and four, five, or possibly even six QBs go in the first round.
I think you could arguably move Barkley from the 2nd group to the 1st.

But again, the bottom line is that we're going to have a top 3 pick. We're not talking about spending our 1st-round draft pick on EJ Manuel.
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Old 12-11-2012, 10:52 AM   #250
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1. I've heard 'such a ****ing lawyer' on here a bajillion times, one for each time the true underlying response was 'OK, I see what you're saying, good point.'

2. You and htis' being vague with the 'draft a QB already' with absolutely no mention of value or qualification wasn't my doing. I may still have a semi-functional sarcasmeter, I don't know if a 'there's a ton of assumed qualifications to my blanket hyperbolic statements you should already know'-meter has even been invented.

3. My hypothetical of a draft where Cousins was the best QB available, even early on in the draft, might be unrealistic, but it is completely defensible when someone is NEARLY SIMULTANEOUSLY stating 'draft QB, any QB, already' and 'Cousins is a guaranteed failure regardless of draft position' as Cousins, regardless of future prospects, undeniably falls under the umbrella of 'any QB.'

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I think you could arguably move Barkley from the 2nd group to the 1st.

But again, the bottom line is that we're going to have a top 3 pick. We're not talking about spending our 1st-round draft pick on EJ Manuel.
Sure. Especially if the top 4 teams selecting look like:

KC
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Philadelphia
Oakland

The first three picks to me just ****ing scream "QB-QB-QB"
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Old 12-11-2012, 01:22 PM   #252
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And he's still not Matt Cassel.
No he isn't nor is he Mark Sanchez, he is Matt Barkley. The thing they all have in common. They suck.

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Yeah, let's **** around and end up getting NOTHING at the QB position.

Just draft a ****ing QB first and let the chips fall where they may.
I would rather get the same level of "nothing" in the 2cd than wasting our #3 overall.
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Old 12-11-2012, 01:59 PM   #253
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I would rather get the same level of "nothing" in the 2cd than wasting our #3 overall.
Who you gonna take at #3 then? Manti?

If you don't take a QB, you're wasting that pick because there's NOBODY worth the #3 overall pick at LT and we don't need Jarvis Jones at all.
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Who you gonna take at #3 then? Manti?

If you don't take a QB, you're wasting that pick because there's NOBODY worth the #3 overall pick at LT and we don't need Jarvis Jones at all.
Doubt that. Trade down someone else might want Matt Barkley or Jarvis Jones or so on.
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