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Old 12-01-2012, 01:15 PM  
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The state of the Kansas City Chiefs.

Now what...?

With so much anger built-up with this current regime, I can't help but cheer for them after wanting them to fail miserably.

What kind of state is this team and coaching staff in who witnessed this happen if reports are true? Crennel...a defensive coordinator by heart, obviously spent a lot of one-on-one time with this troubled individual. What is he thinking? Scott Pioli...there are banners flying over the stadium calling for your head, and now one of your men has taken the life of a mother and then himself. What is running through his head. Same goes for others who witnessed this tragedy. How do you continue doing your job in a professional manner...?

I have never been in such a situation, but it is one thing to witness someone take their own life, but it's another to witness a friend take such a cowardly route.

SOC...what now? I support the donation idea thrown around in the other threads. IMO, there should be no more banners in the air for the remainder of the season. Do we now go full-homer and support this team regardless of who is navigating the ship?

Finally...if Pioli and [somehow] Crennel return next season, do you support them after what they have witness has humans.

I could have thrown this in either of the two shooting threads, but I wanted to hear your thoughts on where you stand today with the Chiefs. Are you rooting for them to win the remainder of the games this season and whatever happens with our draft position happens....? Is this a matter of football vs real-life to you and as a fan, you still wish for failure in the FO and the #1 draft pick. Or are you somewhere in the middle?

I duno...curious to hear how others feel right now about the state of our franchise given this morning's tragic events. Where do you go from here...?
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Old 12-01-2012, 01:26 PM   #16
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I am betting Pioli and Crennel could not wait to bolt even before this happened...


They and Matt Cassel will have horrible associations with this city.
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Old 12-01-2012, 01:27 PM   #17
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If you find yourself agreeing with Duhnise, you have to double check yourself. She's not even a real fan. Go watch whichever game Gannon is broadcasting and leave CP in peace.
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Old 12-01-2012, 01:28 PM   #18
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I am hoping we secure the number one pick then go on a little tear at the end of the season. The players need the confidence. Pioli and Crennel are already lame-ducks.
I think that this, if anything, completely cements the deal.

Never has an NFL franchise imploded so quickly, definitely and completely.

And it's not just Pioli and Crennel; this is Clark Hunt's mess, too: he backed the wrong guy when he let Pioli fire Haley midseason last year. Hunt ****ed up...and the fallout has been palpable.

I'm not blaming anyone for the tragedy of this morning; horrible, unfathomable acts, and I feel for Crennel and Pioli as people...but they created this, this weird vacuum of negativity and total dysfunctional chaos.

They must go.

Even that won't fix this franchise; it's got bad juju written all over it.

1st pick in 2013 or not, the only people who will come to KC now are people who can't get jobs anywhere else.

The pallor now cast over this franchise is now visible and tangible. Only a fool doesn't see it...
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Old 12-01-2012, 01:28 PM   #19
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This is how I feel.
We will be in a distinct minority on this board but I don't think so off of it.
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Old 12-01-2012, 01:28 PM   #20
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The fact is that the Chiefs are as low as they have EVER been right now, including the 70's and 80's, and that was before all this Belcher insanity.
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Old 12-01-2012, 01:28 PM   #21
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you guys think clark has found out about whats happened today yet? hes prolly just about finishing his saturday golf round
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Old 12-01-2012, 01:29 PM   #22
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I am betting Pioli and Crennel could not wait to bolt even before this happened....
Naw.

I was thinking Crennel would resign and Pioli would get another shot with a new QB.

After this...I have no clue what to think. I would bet Crennel would step down for sure....don't know about Pioli.

The ticker on ESPN said that Crennel is doing OK right now while Pioli is pretty emotional.
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Old 12-01-2012, 01:29 PM   #23
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Resignations seem like a very real possibility. If it's true they paid witness to Belcher's suicide, I can't express how awful I feel for Scott and Romeo.
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Old 12-01-2012, 01:31 PM   #24
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I can't express how awful I feel for Scott and Romeo.
This...plus knowing the fans already are upset with you...

Feel pretty bad for them at the moment.
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you guys think clark has found out about whats happened today yet? hes prolly just about finishing his saturday golf round
Clark has already released a statement.
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Old 12-01-2012, 01:32 PM   #27
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This...plus knowing the fans already are upset with you...

Feel pretty bad for them at the moment.
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The ticker on ESPN said that Crennel is doing OK right now while Pioli is pretty emotional.
I think that Pioli has been putting up a brave face that will come crashing down now. It is too personal now. Too close to home.
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I don't think anyone associated with this tragedy should be part of the leadership group next season.

We badly need a fresh start.
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Resignations seem like a very real possibility. If it's true they paid witness to Belcher's suicide, I can't express how awful I feel for Scott and Romeo.
Yep. Even if things were going far differently right now, I'm just not sure how these guys could go back to Arrowhead day after day. I just don't think they'd have a chance to heal and mentally move past what they were forced to witness.
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