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Old 12-01-2012, 07:52 AM  
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Shooting at Arrowhead- Chiefs player commits suicide

No details yet. Just came across on the news.

edit: Sources say the player is Jovan Belcher. Police have yet to confirm.

An unnamed Kansas City Chiefs player has committed suicide at the team facility and authorities are on the scene, the police confirmed to ESPN on Saturday morning.

Local reports say police are operating with the belief the player fatally shot his girlfriend at a house before driving to Arrowhead Stadium and killing himself at around 8 a.m local time. The Associated Press reported the player's age to be 25.

"We can confirm that there was an incident at Arrowhead earlier this morning," the Chiefs said in a statement. "We are cooperating with authorities in their investigation."

There were no other injuries at the team facility, police said.

The Chiefs (1-10) were preparing to host the Carolina Panthers on Sunday.

The NFL has told the Panthers to travel as planned to Kansas City on Saturday, the Charlotte Observer has reported, citing interim general manager Brandon Beane.


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Old 12-01-2012, 10:57 AM   #766
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The mental toll on these guys is crazy.

You just never really know what is going on with someone.
So true, we all get on here about each other and the Chiefs players, management and we never know what is going on inside of that person. To many people in this world, life is tougher on some more than others. Prayers to all.
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Old 12-01-2012, 10:58 AM   #767
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Old 12-01-2012, 10:58 AM   #768
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I would, but I have absolutely no tolerance or sympathy for murderers, and that co-worker wouldn't be a relative.

This condemnation of Goodell is silly and premature. The correct decision is to ask the Chiefs players tonight if they want to play tomorrow. We are all just presuming the answer is no, but for all we know, most of them might. In the meantime, the NFL has to logistically presume the game wont be postponed or cancelled until its clear it has to be.

If the players all stood up and demanded the game be postponed and the NFL gave them a "the show must go on" speech, then there could be a problem.
I think you may be right. I doubt that they will be able to move on from all this in the course of just a day, but an important part of healing is making an effort to return to normalcy. We'll see what happens.
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Old 12-01-2012, 10:58 AM   #769
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@BillSimmons: Such a horrible tragedy in KC. Chiefs game has to be postponed 1 or 2 days. How is this even a question? Do the right thing, NFL.
NFL did nothing when Sean Taylor was MURDER.
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Old 12-01-2012, 10:59 AM   #770
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I am under no illusion that the NFL will not cancel the game, maybe reschedule it. This game has ZERO implication on the rest of the season though since both teams are out of the playoffs.

All I am saying is if the NFL does decide to play the game tomorrow the Chiefs should forfeit or just take a knee and walk off the field.
I think you'll see a reaction from the NFL much more severe than what the Spurs got. And I wouldn't blame the NFL for it, as insensitive as that sounds. Pretty sure the Chiefs know that this is not something they will want to do.
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Old 12-01-2012, 10:59 AM   #771
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Neither. Look, people who have healthy support systems don't do this. Think of how your job might be your sanctuary if your home life is bad or vice versa. Also think about how a quiet person (as he's been described all morning) would have a hard time opening up to other people because it's not his nature.

So he's having problems at home where he can internalize it and no one knows. But he goes to work where his failures are on display. Not just his but his team, the organization, the city. The support system within the players seems to still be there as we've not seen ANY public blaming or dissing of each other. But once he leaves that locker room all good feelings there are no longer. The failings are out in the open and a matter of public discourse. They are on the field and in the air. They are on the television and on the airwaves.

There is no soap box here. There is the fact that someone who feel they have something going right in their lives does not do this unless they are mentally ill which, if that is the case, he is likely not equipped to handle the pressure of the NFL.
Opinion.

Do you have credentials you're not sharing with us?

Don't answer that, as I'm finally placing you on ignore.
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Old 12-01-2012, 10:59 AM   #772
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Old 12-01-2012, 10:59 AM   #774
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Romeo and Pioli need counseling after this......as much as my disdain for their skills in football, they are human beings and witnessing someone you are trying to talk out of suicide kill themselves is tragic....
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Neither. Look, people who have healthy support systems don't do this. Think of how your job might be your sanctuary if your home life is bad or vice versa. Also think about how a quiet person (as he's been described all morning) would have a hard time opening up to other people because it's not his nature.

So he's having problems at home where he can internalize it and no one knows. But he goes to work where his failures are on display. Not just his but his team, the organization, the city. The support system within the players seems to still be there as we've not seen ANY public blaming or dissing of each other. But once he leaves that locker room all good feelings there are no longer. The failings are out in the open and a matter of public discourse. They are on the field and in the air. They are on the television and on the airwaves.

There is no soap box here. There is the fact that someone who feels they have something going right in their lives does not do this unless they are mentally ill which, if that is the case, he is likely not equipped to handle the pressure of the NFL.

The energy at Arrowhead has been toxic for awhile (see their home record) and I think that it would not be surprising if some of the players have been dealing with depression or other types of mental health issues. I'm not saying any of this caused Belcher's actions but to believe they were not ANY FACTOR AT ALL is not realistic.
So really, you're saying you have no clear idea of what you're talking about.
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Found this article after a quick search. It's a couple of years old, but works....


What's it take for an NFL game to be postponed?


Here is the list of NFL games that have been postponed/delayed since 1987 and the reasons for them. There are natural disasters, the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks and a stadium conflict, but not snow ...

-- October 26, 1987 – Denver at Minnesota game of October 25 switched to October 26 in Minnesota due to Minnesota Twins playing seventh game of World Series at Metrodome in Minneapolis on Sunday, October 25. Vikings won 34-27.

-- October 22, 1989 -- New England at San Francisco game of October 22 switched from Candlestick Park to Stanford Stadium in Palo Alto due to Bay Area earthquake of October 17. 49ers won 37-20.

-- October 18, 1992 -- New England at Miami game of September 6 switched to October 18 in Miami due to aftermath of Hurricane Andrew on August 25. Both teams originally had bye weeks on October 18. Miami won 38-17.

-- October 27, 1997 – Chicago at Miami game of October 26 switched to October 27 in Miami due to Florida Marlins playing seventh game of World Series at Miami’s Pro Player Stadium on Sunday night, October 26. Bears won 36-33 (OT).

-- September 11, 2001 – Week 2 of the NFL schedule was postponed on September 13 after the 9/11 terrorist attacks. On September 18, the NFL re-scheduled those games. The second week of the season would be picked up in Week 3, and the original Week 2 games would be played on January 6-7 as the final Week 17 of the season.

-- October 27, 2003 – Monday night game of Miami at San Diego on October 27 is switched on October 26 to Sun Devil Stadium in Tempe, Arizona due to Southern California wildfires. Chargers’ Qualcomm Stadium was being used as an evacuation area for San Diego residents. Miami won 26-10.

-- September 11, 2004 – Tennessee at Miami game of September 12 (season opener) switched to September 11 in Miami due to approach of Hurricane Ivan. Titans won 17-7.

-- September 19, 2005 – NY Giants at New Orleans game of September 18 (Saints’ home opener) switched to September 19 in New York at Giants Stadium due to damage of Superdome following Hurricane Katrina. Giants won 27-10.

-- New Orleans Saints, 2005 – After playing home opener in New York (see above), New Orleans split remainder of home games between Alamo Dome in San Antonio, Texas or Tiger Stadium in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. All seven games played on originally scheduled date.

-- October 21, 2005 – Kansas City at Miami game of October 23 switched to October 21 due to impending landfall of Hurricane Wilma. Chiefs won 30-20.

-- October 26, 2008 – Cincinnati at Houston game of November 9 switched to October 26 due to schedule restructuring (see below) following damage to Reliant Stadium from Hurricane Ike. Cincinnati’s bye was moved to Week 10 (Nov. 9) as a result. Texans won 35-6.

-- November 9, 2008 – Baltimore at Houston game of September 14 (Texans’ home opener) switched to November 9 due to damage of Reliant Stadium following Hurricane Ike. Both teams had byes in Week 2 (Sep. 14) as a result. Ravens won 41-13.

-- September 12, 2010 – Denver at Jacksonville game of September 12 (2010 Kickoff Weekend) delayed 33 minutes due to lightening over stadium. Jaguars won 24-17.

-- September 13, 2010 – Baltimore at NY Jets game of September 13 (2010 Kickoff Weekend; Jets first game in New Meadowlands Stadium and first MNF game in history of facility) delayed 15 minutes due to lightening over stadium. Ravens won 10-9.

-- October 11, 2010 – Minnesota at NY Jets game of October 11 (MNF game) delayed 45 minutes due to lightening over stadium. Jets won 29-20.

-- December 13, 2010 – NY Giants at Minnesota game of Sunday, December 12 moved to Ford Field on Monday, December 13. The Metrodome’s roof collapsed on Sunday morning under the weight of heavy snow, causing the game to be played in Detroit. On Saturday, December 11, the NFL announced the game would be played on Monday night in Minnesota due to severe weather conditions that produced nearly two feet of snow in Minneapolis, diverting the Giants flight on Saturday to Kansas City. However, the roof collapse early Sunday morning forced the shift of the Monday game site from Minnesota to Detroit. Giants won 21-3 before a crowd of 45,910.

-- December 20, 2010 – Chicago at Minnesota game of Monday, December 20 moved to University of Minnesota’s TCF Bank Stadium. After the Metrodome’s roof collapsed the prior week, the NFL announced that Minnesota would host its first outdoor game in 29 years. Over 40,000 cubic yards of snow were removed from TCF Bank Stadium during the week leading up to the game after the facility had been winterized following the NCAA regular season. Bears won 40-14 before a crowd of 40,504.



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