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Old 11-27-2012, 03:56 PM  
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Minnesota man who killed teens in break-in charged with murder

wow, this sounds pretty messed up... Cant tell if his guy is nuts or if these kids were on drugs

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A 64-year-old Minnesota man was charged Monday with murder for killing two teenagers who he said broke into his Little Falls home, shooting them in the head, the Minneapolis Star Tribune reported.

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Byron David Smith was arrested after he told police he shot and killed two teenagers who he said were breaking into his home on Thanksgiving Day.

"If you're trying to shoot somebody and they laugh at you, you go again," Byron David Smith of Little Falls told investigators, according to a criminal complaint filed Monday.

Smith was charged with two counts of second-degree murder in the deaths of Haile Kifer, 18, and her cousin, Nicholas Brady, 17, both of Little Falls. The teens were shot on Thanksgiving Day, but their deaths weren't reported until Friday.
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Brady has also used the name Schaeffel, which is his mother’s maiden name, at times for family reasons, according to the sheriff's office.

In the criminal complaint, Smith said he was in the basement of his remote home about 10 miles southwest of Little Falls when he heard a window breaking upstairs, followed by footsteps that eventually approached the basement stairwell. Fearful after several break-ins, according to the complaint, Smith said he fired when Brady came into view from the waist down.

After the teen fell down the stairs, Smith said he shot him in the face as he lay on the floor.

"I want him dead," the complaint quoted Smith telling an investigator.

Smith said he dragged Brady's body into his basement workshop, then sat back down on his chair, and after a few minutes Kifer began coming down the stairs. He said he shot her as soon as her hips appeared, and she fell down the steps.

Smith said he tried to shoot her again with his Mini 14 rifle, but that the gun jammed and Kifer laughed at him.

"Smith stated that it was not a very long laugh because she was already hurting," according to the complaint.

Smith said he then shot Kifer in the chest several times with a .22-caliber revolver, dragged her next to Brady, and with her still gasping for air, fired a shot under her chin "up into the cranium."

"Smith described it as 'a good clean finishing shot,'" according to the compliant, but also that he acknowledged he had fired "more shots than (he) needed to."

The following day he asked a neighbor to recommend a good lawyer, according to the complaint. He later asked his neighbor to call the police.

A prosecutor called Smith's reaction "appalling."

"Mr. Smith intentionally killed two teenagers in his home in a matter that goes well beyond self-defense," Morrison County Attorney Brian Middendorf said after Smith appeared at Morrison County District Court on Monday morning. Bail was set at $2 million.

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Minnesota law allows a homeowner to use deadly force on an intruder if a reasonable person would fear they're in danger of harm. Smith told investigators he was afraid the intruders might have a weapon.

Smith's actions "sound like an execution" rather than legitimate self-defense, said David Pecchia, executive director of the Minnesota Chiefs of Police Association. Pecchia said his statements to investigators suggest he had eliminated any threat to his safety by wounding the cousins.

Smith's brother, Bruce Smith, told the Star Tribune of Minneapolis that the incident was the eighth burglary at Byron Smith's home in recent years.

The only report the Morrison County sheriff's office has for a break-in at the home was for one on Oct. 27. It shows Byron Smith reported losing cash and gold coins worth $9,200, plus two guns worth $200 each, photo equipment worth more than $3,000 and a ring worth $300.

Little Falls is about 100 miles northwest of Minneapolis.

Brady's sister, Crystal Schaeffel, told the Star Tribune that Kifer had broken into her home before. Little Falls police records show Crystal Schaeffel reported a theft Aug. 28, but the department said the report was not public because that investigation was continuing and because it named juveniles.

Tessa Ruth, an aunt of Brady, attended Smith's hearing. She told the Star Tribune she wished the man had fired a warning shot or alerted the police instead of shooting the teens.

"It wasn't right for them to be there and, yes, he had a right to defend himself. But to execute them like that..."

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Old 11-27-2012, 07:16 PM   #61
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Old 11-27-2012, 08:16 PM   #62
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Old 11-27-2012, 08:24 PM   #63
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Who gets shot and then laughs moments later because the second shot was jammed?
The same person that came downstairs in a strangers house to investigate gunshots....
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Old 11-27-2012, 09:52 PM   #64
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there has to be more to this story
Clearly.

There's just too much in the initial report that makes no sense. He's hanging out in the basement with no eyeballs. Perp #2 hears gunshots in the basement and goes down to check it out. Then, after being gut shot, Perp #2 laughs at Moleman's ineptitude at gun play. Moleman drags the bodies around, then delays contacting the authorities for a full day. Even then, Moleman asks his neighbor to make the call.

Nope. I think you're right, Mr. NIUhuskies. I think there's more to the story. In fact, I think there's a different set of facts entirely. I think Moleman had invited the two teenagers over to the house to engage in some sort of drug transaction or whatever. Then, Moleman lost a few more precious marbles and took out his guests. Afterwards, Moleman made up this wacky cover story in an effort to claim self-defense. Unfortunately for Moleman, he is probably the worst alibi fabricator in the entire universe.

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Old 11-27-2012, 10:06 PM   #65
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Old 11-27-2012, 10:09 PM   #66
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Something definitely stinks, its not really adding up.

When he says a line like "it was a good, clean finishing shot" "right up under her chin"... the only reasonable conclusion is that this man is certifiable, to look upon two kids and do that, and wait a day before calling... get him behind bars asap.

The girl actually laughed? i call bullshit, the only possible way thats true is if Marcellus' bath salts usage theory is right, anything else, and what that crazy bastard heard was death weezes... and hopefully the coroner will answer that question soon enough.

It all stinks.
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Old 11-28-2012, 05:32 AM   #67
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New story today-MPLS Star trib 11-28

Slain teenage cousins linked to an earlier Little Falls break-in?

Investigators were working late Tuesday to determine whether the two teenage cousins slain during a home burglary in Little Falls, Minn., on Thanksgiving Day committed a similar crime just hours before the fatal shootings.

Preliminary findings suggest that Nick Brady, 17, and Haile Kifer, 18, were involved in another break-in Wednesday night, 6 miles south of the home where Byron Smith claims he shot them in self-defense, said Morrison County Sheriff Michel Wetzel. Smith, 64, a retired U.S. State Department worker, is charged with second-degree murder in the double shooting, which Wetzel has characterized as "cold-blooded" executions carried out after the teens were disabled by initial shots.

In the latest development, investigators are piecing together evidence recovered from a red Mitsubishi Eclipse that Brady had been driving, and which was discovered Friday parked a block away and around the corner from Smith's property, 3 miles north of Little Falls.

That same car was seen in a driveway last Wednesday evening 3 miles south of Little Falls, in the vicinity of a house belonging to Richard L. Johnson, a retired Little Falls High School teacher who had been in Spain until Sunday evening.

Wetzel confirmed that deputies who had been called to the Johnson neighborhood about the car identified it as one used by Brady, but not registered to him.

The sheriff also said that Brady had walked up to the car, was questioned by the deputies and released. The burglary at Johnson's home was at that time undiscovered, he said.

"There are some preliminary indications that the Johnson burglary may have been committed by the Brady boy and the Kifer girl, but it's too early now to say definitively, but tomorrow morning [Wednesday] we'll have some more information and determine whether they're connected," Wetzel said.

Johnson said the items he reported stolen included less than $5 worth of pennies kept in a box on his dresser, silver and copper coins from foreign countries, and an assortment of prescription medication, including drugs for diabetes and controlling cholesterol. Johnson, 68, said the thieves had broken a sliding glass door at his house.

Wetzel could not immediately confirm whether any of Johnson's property was found in the car that Brady and Kifer left parked near Smith's house before they were slain. He said investigators are tracing an assortment of items.

Smith's brother, Bruce Johnson of California, whom Byron Smith called after the shootings, said his brother reported about $10,000 worth of items stolen in an Oct. 27 burglary, including guns, a camera and $3,000 to $4,000 in cash.

He said the Oct. 27 break-in was the latest in a string of six to eight before the shootings Thanksgiving Day.

The sheriff said he did not have the burglary report regarding the late October burglary that Byron Smith reported.

"I don't have the reports in front of me to indicate precisely what was found. I do know they found quite a bit of evidence in their vehicle that was parked near the Smith place," the sheriff said late Tuesday. "We're trying to investigate whether it might have come from the Johnson burglary."

Johnson, who taught 32 years at Little Falls High, said he didn't know Kifer or Brady, though he knew one of their siblings.

"The whole thing is very sad that they lost their lives," he said. "In the same instance, if they hadn't been breaking into houses, they'd be alive."
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Old 11-28-2012, 06:30 AM   #68
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If anyone unknown to me or my family breaks a window and enters my home I will execute them. This is sad and it's wrong that he waited to call the police which brings into question his entire account of events. But plenty of innocent people / families have been murdered in thier own homes by intruders. I think even if I was protecting my family and put in a position where I had to kill somone I would regret it the rest of my life but I wouldn't hesitate even one moment and always shoot to kill.
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Old 11-28-2012, 07:33 AM   #69
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I think even if I was protecting my family and put in a position where I had to kill somone I would regret it the rest of my life but I wouldn't hesitate even one moment and always shoot to kill.
Even if the first shots had disabled the intruders to the point of removing the threat?
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Old 11-28-2012, 07:41 AM   #70
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He shot them when there legs/hips came into view as they were coming down the stairs. My guess is he didn't want to wait for a body/head shot in case they were armed (he was robbed of two guns a month prior, probably the same kids).
What is really odd about his story is after he shot the boy twice, then the girl came down the stairs, too? Wouldn't she have headed for the way out instead once she heard a mini 14 shot?
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It makes you wonder if those kids broke in his house at all.

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This was the very first thing that came to mind. Maybe they walked through his yard and he lured them in. Guy deserves to spend the rest of his days in prison, period.
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Some additional thoughts on this:

Sounds like these kids were basically terrorizing this guy. I've been in a situation before where somebody kept ****ing with me at my apartment (showing up with 5 guys in the middle of the night, blowing up M-80s on the porch, etc.) and I can tell you, it really makes you crazy. I had to run that ****er off at gunpoint a couple of times and really, really wanted to end him, so I understand this guy's frustration. Add in him being an old man and completely isolated, and well, I don't excuse his actions, but I get why he snapped.

Also, sounds like these kids were complete ****ing vermin, bravo for removing them from the gene pool.
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Even if the first shots had disabled the intruders to the point of removing the threat?
They'll heal eventually and won't be friendly.

I'm not saying that's a reason to finish them off, but it's a rationale.

When I was in high school, my father got attacked at work by a couple of thugs. (He ran a restaurant and they came in at night and just did a random attack.) He had to testify against them in court and they got sent to prison for a couple of years, and when it was time for them to get out it was very worrisome. We got new beefy locks on our doors and all kinds of stuff.
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This was the very first thing that came to mind. Maybe they walked through his yard and he lured them in. Guy deserves to spend the rest of his days in prison, period.
Given the fact that they had been breaking into other houses, I think we can reject this theory. However else we judge the situation, we can safely conclude that the kids were scum.
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What is really odd about his story is after he shot the boy twice, then the girl came down the stairs, too? Wouldn't she have headed for the way out instead once she heard a mini 14 shot?
A rational person would but a rational person isn’t going to go breaking into other people’s houses either.
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