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Old 11-17-2012, 06:58 AM  
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Racial Slurs

We're having some posts being reported for the use of racial slurs in this forum. While it is widely known that there is some racism that goes on in this forum, those users have found a way to dance around the issue enough that the majority of moderators of this website have deemed the behavior fine for now.

It's really not okay to me at all. I don't believe that people of color should be subjected to that shit over political affiliations. That said, I'm a firm believer in a majority consensus so it is what it is at this point.

That said, overtly racial slurs will result in bannings. It is a bullet point in the TOS of this website, and not much is out of bounds. One user has already been banned, and another one has been warned. If you insist on trying to dance around racist comments, please be prepared for a vacation if you use a term that is deemed racist by the moderators. Thanks in advance for your cooperation.
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:59 PM   #616
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:59 PM   #617
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Old 11-20-2012, 09:00 PM   #618
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According to Merriam-Webster, it's "a class or kind of people unified by shared interests, habits, or characteristics".
Yes sir. It sure does. The next thing is false which is where I get my meaning in terms of taxonomy.

an actually or potentially interbreeding group within a species; also : a taxonomic category (as a subspecies) representing such a group

Merriam webster is the only dictionary I've found that defines it that way.
Whose definition, by the way, also strips Donger's assertion that Mexicans are not a race.

That being said, I can't say that is the most accepted definition.
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Old 11-20-2012, 09:00 PM   #619
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Vailpass has been both warned and banned for thinly veiled racial slurs in the past. Then he decided to use them in a thread discussing racial slurs against a known Latino. That post was reported by a third party and I responded by banning him for a couple more days than his ban lasted the last time. I really don't know how to handle it any better than that.

I would suggest that the previously invoked racial slur website is a pretty good reference if you're unsure but it's not a catch-all. Would any of you walk up to a Latino on the street and call him a greaseball? Vailpass knows what he did and I'm sure he accepts his lumps gracefully. He probably disagrees that his choice of words were slurs but he knows he was pushing his luck.
Would anyone walk up to a Latino (the word "Latino" isn't without it's controversies either, btw) on the street and call him a pillowbiter or bitch?

Your common sense test still doesn't make much sense.
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Old 11-20-2012, 09:01 PM   #620
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I'm certainly not freaking out over it. I'm not even mildly bothered by it. That said, there have been numerous examples of mods letting personal biases steer their decisions when it comes to banning/not banning posters, and the board is worse off for it IMO. Because of this, I understand why people get up in arms over bannings.

Of course, if this were MY board, the over-arching rule would be "I will do whatever the **** I please, and I won't always be fair or consistent, so go **** yourselves if you have a problem with it." I think that phobia would like to have that rule, but it's not his board (and that burns him up sometimes). I think that Flop would LOVE to have that rule (mostly so he could stir up drama, and credit him for owning up to it), but it's not his board either.
I wasn't saying you were just in general. It just seems everytime someone gets banned there is a fight about it when most times it shouldn't be. Some of that is the mods fault because they try to be nice and come explain it when they should really just not say anything and let their actions speak for themselves.

And I will admit I am not above bitching about some of their decisions . For example I think Hootie should be able to come back just like they let shtsprayer come back.
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Old 11-20-2012, 09:01 PM   #621
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Yes sir. It sure does. The next thing is false which is where I get my meaning in terms of taxonomy.

an actually or potentially interbreeding group within a species; also : a taxonomic category (as a subspecies) representing such a group

Merriam webster is the only dictionary I've found that defines it that way.
Whose definition, by the way, also strips Donger's assertion that Mexicans are not a race.

That being said, I can't say that is the most accepted definition.
Oh, please, please let British be a race. Please.
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Old 11-20-2012, 09:01 PM   #622
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Sadly, every country on earth has racism and it's never going to end
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Old 11-20-2012, 09:03 PM   #623
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Oh, please, please let British be a race. Please.
According to the definition on Merriam Webster's it is.

: a breeding stock of animals
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a : a family, tribe, people, or nation belonging to the same stock
b : a class or kind of people unified by shared interests, habits, or characteristics
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a : an actually or potentially interbreeding group within a species; also : a taxonomic category (as a subspecies) representing such a group
b : breed
c : a category of humankind that shares certain distinctive physical traits
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Old 11-20-2012, 09:08 PM   #624
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I don't know what world you live in where saying "Holy whatever, greaseball" isn't racist. If you're too thick to figure that out...

Your proposal is to have someone hold your hand through every post, saying what is okay and not. I think common sense works.
I live in a world where "greaseball" isn't an ethic slur for Hispanics and even though you've never heard it used that way you've convinced yourself that it is. That's why a list is so useful. It prevents morons like you from letting your imaginations run wild.
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Old 11-20-2012, 09:11 PM   #625
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I live in a world where "greaseball" isn't an ethic slur for Hispanics and even though you've never heard it used that way you've convinced yourself that it is. That's why a list is so useful. It prevents morons like you from letting your imaginations run wild.
Sir, I've no idea why you are so terribly upset about this.
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Old 11-20-2012, 09:12 PM   #626
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I live in a world where "greaseball" isn't an ethic slur for Hispanics and even though you've never heard it used that way you've convinced yourself that it is. That's why a list is so useful. It prevents morons like you from letting your imaginations run wild.
wikipedia disagrees with you

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_slurs
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Old 11-20-2012, 09:14 PM   #627
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and a more reliable source-- the dictionary:
grease·ball/ˈgrēsˌbôl/
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offensive. A foreigner, esp. one of Mediterranean or Latin American origin.
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Old 11-20-2012, 09:15 PM   #628
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and a more reliable source-- the dictionary:
grease·ball/ˈgrēsˌbôl/
Noun:
offensive. A foreigner, esp. one of Mediterranean or Latin American origin.
What's a dictionary? I have never heard of one
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Old 11-20-2012, 09:16 PM   #629
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You need a list?

It's one thing to say it wasn't enforced before, but then there's this thread warning people... and maybe it needs to be clearer in the FAQ as far as general leniency, warnings, length of bans, etc.... but, come on...

I'm going to ask an HR rep for a list when I get to work tomorrow. I know, I know, this isn't work, but if you people seriously need a master list of slurs to refer to while you're attacking each other....
I was thinking the list was more for you and the other mods. Then you wouldn't have to make up these laughably nonsensical "common sense" rules to justify inconsistent application of some fine sounding principles.

When you ask your HR person for that list, try addressing him/her as "bitch" and see how that goes over.
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What's a dictionary? I have never heard of one
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