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Old 11-10-2012, 07:47 PM  
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Obama wins Florida ......... finally.

FL Election Results 2012: Barack Obama Defeats Mitt Romney
By TAMARA LUSH 11/10/12 01:34 PM ET U.S. President Barack Obama addresses a crowd of supporters on stage on election night November 6, 2012 in Chicago, Illinois. (JEWEL SAMAD/AFP/Getty Images)
ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. — President Barack Obama was declared the winner of Florida's 29 electoral votes Saturday, ending a four-day count with a razor-thin margin that narrowly avoided an automatic recount that would have brought back memories of 2000.
No matter the outcome, Obama had already clinched re-election and now has 332 electoral votes to Romney's 206.
The Florida Secretary of State's Office said that with almost 100 percent of the vote counted, Obama led Republican challenger Mitt Romney 50 percent to 49.1 percent, a difference of about 74,000 votes. That was over the half-percent margin where a computer recount would have been automatically ordered unless Romney had waived it.
There is a Nov. 16 deadline for overseas and military ballots, but under Florida law, recounts are based on Saturday's results. Only a handful of overseas and military ballots are believed to remain outstanding.
It's normal for election supervisors in Florida and other states to spend days after any election counting absentee, provisional, military and overseas ballots. Usually, though, the election has already been called on election night or soon after because the winner's margin is beyond reach.
"Florida has spoken loudly in support of moving our nation forward," Ashley Walker, the Obama campaign's director for Florida, said in a news release. She added that the win was a testament to the campaign's volunteers and staff.
When reached by phone Saturday, Mitt Romney's communications director Gail Gitcho said the campaign had no comment.
Obama's win came in part from heavy support from black, Hispanic and younger voters. Exit polls conducted for The Associated Press showed Obama was favored by more than 9 of 10 black voters and 3 of 5 Hispanic voters in Florida. The president also was the choice of two-thirds of voters under age 30.
Republican challenger Mitt Romney led among both white and older voters.

In the end, the facts of who voted for which candidate in Florida faded into memory as voting issues emerged election night.
On election night this year, it was difficult for officials – and the media – to call the presidential race here, in part because the margin was so close and the voting stretched into the evening.
In Miami-Dade, for instance, so many people were in line at 7 p.m. in certain precincts that some people didn't vote until after midnight.
The hours-long wait at the polls in some areas, a lengthy ballot and the fact that Gov. Rick Scott refused to extend early voting hours has led some to criticize Florida's voting process. Some officials have vowed to investigate why there were problems at the polls and how that led to a lengthy vote count.
If there had been a recount, it would not be as difficult as the lengthy one in 2000. The state no longer uses punch-card ballots, which became known for their hanging chads. All 67 counties now use optical scan ballots where voters mark their selections manually.
Republican George W. Bush won the 2000 contest after the Supreme Court declared him the winner over Democrat Al Gore by a scant 537 votes.
The win gave Obama victories in eight of the nine swing states, losing only North Carolina. In addition to Florida, he won Ohio, Iowa, New Hampshire, Wisconsin, Virginia, Colorado and Nevada.
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Old 11-10-2012, 09:50 PM   #16
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I think unemployment's going to drop like a rock that year.



Coal company announces layoffs in response to Obama win
http://money.cnn.com/2012/11/09/news...layoffs-obama/

Obama's fast implementation of regs by Obama didn't help. This is what America voted for.


Pennsylvania coal companies announce layoffs, blame Obama

"The escalating costs and uncertainty generated by recently advanced EPA regulations and interpretations have created a challenging business climate for the entire coal industry,” said PBS Coals Inc. "
http://washingtonexaminer.com/pennsy...2#.UJ8gqIXyzss
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Old 11-10-2012, 09:54 PM   #17
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Coal company announces layoffs in response to Obama win
http://money.cnn.com/2012/11/09/news...layoffs-obama/

Obama's fast implementation of regs by Obama didn't help. This is what America voted for.


Pennsylvania coal companies announce layoffs, blame Obama

"The escalating costs and uncertainty generated by recently advanced EPA regulations and interpretations have created a challenging business climate for the entire coal industry,” said PBS Coals Inc. "
http://washingtonexaminer.com/pennsy...2#.UJ8gqIXyzss
That is such a silly notion that I'm surprised even you believe it.
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Old 11-10-2012, 09:55 PM   #18
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Okay guys, now you can pay for it....Obama has no one to blame now!

The following is a list of companies which have announced layoffs directly as a result of President Obama's re-election.

List of layoffs and closings:


Westinghouse -

Research in Motion Limited -

Lightyear Network Solutions -

• Providence Journal -

• Hawker Beechcraft -

• Boeing (30% of their management staff) -

• CVPH Medical Center -

• US Cellular -

• Momentive Performance Materials -

• Rocketdyne -

• Brake Parts -

• Vestas Wind Systems -

• Husqvarna -

• Center for Hospice New York -

• Bristol-Meyers -

• OCE North America -

• Darden Restaurants -

• United Blood Services Gulf

Various Offices which will be closing as a result of re-election:

Caterpillar Inc. will close its plant in Owatonna Minn.
Mount Pleasant’s Albrecht Sentry Foods
The Target store at Manassas Mall Va.
Millennium Academy in Wake Forest NC
Target Closing Kissimmee FL Location
The Andover Gift Shop in Andover MA
Grand Union Family Markets Closing Storrs Location CT
Movie Scene Milford Location NH
Update: TE Connectivity Closing Greensboro Plant – 620 Layoffs Expected
Gomer’s Fried Chicken in South Kansas City
Kmart in Homer Glen
Fresh Market on Pine Street in Burlington
AGC Glass North America to permanently close its Blue Ridge Plant in Kingsport Tenn.
The Target store at Platte and Academy in Colorado Springs
The Roses store on Reynold Road in Winston-Salem NC
Meanders Kitchen losing its West Seattle location at 6032 California Ave
Bost Harley-Davidson at 46th Avenue North and Delaware Ave. in West Nashville TN
Townsend Booksellers in Oakland
The Kmart store in Parkway Plaza off University Drive in Durham NC – 79 Jobs Lost
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Old 11-10-2012, 09:58 PM   #19
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The following is a list of companies which have announced layoffs directly as a result of President Obama's re-election.

List of layoffs and closings:


Westinghouse -

Research in Motion Limited -

Lightyear Network Solutions -

• Providence Journal -

• Hawker Beechcraft -

• Boeing (30% of their management staff) -

• CVPH Medical Center -

• US Cellular -

• Momentive Performance Materials -

• Rocketdyne -

• Brake Parts -

• Vestas Wind Systems -

• Husqvarna -

• Center for Hospice New York -

• Bristol-Meyers -

• OCE North America -

• Darden Restaurants -

• United Blood Services Gulf

Various Offices which will be closing as a result of re-election:

Caterpillar Inc. will close its plant in Owatonna Minn.
Mount Pleasant’s Albrecht Sentry Foods
The Target store at Manassas Mall Va.
Millennium Academy in Wake Forest NC
Target Closing Kissimmee FL Location
The Andover Gift Shop in Andover MA
Grand Union Family Markets Closing Storrs Location CT
Movie Scene Milford Location NH
Update: TE Connectivity Closing Greensboro Plant – 620 Layoffs Expected
Gomer’s Fried Chicken in South Kansas City
Kmart in Homer Glen
Fresh Market on Pine Street in Burlington
AGC Glass North America to permanently close its Blue Ridge Plant in Kingsport Tenn.
The Target store at Platte and Academy in Colorado Springs
The Roses store on Reynold Road in Winston-Salem NC
Meanders Kitchen losing its West Seattle location at 6032 California Ave
Bost Harley-Davidson at 46th Avenue North and Delaware Ave. in West Nashville TN
Townsend Booksellers in Oakland
The Kmart store in Parkway Plaza off University Drive in Durham NC – 79 Jobs Lost


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Old 11-10-2012, 10:07 PM   #20
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Old 11-10-2012, 10:15 PM   #21
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Wow, what a big margin. Too bad, Obama lied about his Medicare cuts to seniors and said Romney would do that. Even journalist Bob Woodward, said it was “bad politics” to say so.
I understand it that they are not cuts in Medicare benefits. But rather cutting out payments to the corporate middleman. Which is something that I've advocated since the day the Bush prescription drug plan was implemented. It was nothing but a boondoggle for the insurance companies, HMOs, and pharmaceutical companies.

It ballooned the cost to the taxpayer while adding nothing to benefits. In fact, as time passed it ended up costing seniors more as premiums and co-pays increased while benefits shrank. The donut hole is an example of that.

So it's not really a cut in Medicare when all your doing is saving money without cutting benefits. That's fiscal responsibility.

Also, Ryan's budget called for the exact same dollar amount in cuts to Medicare. That is what the Obama campaign was referring to.
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Old 11-10-2012, 10:20 PM   #22
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For a lot of people, this election was either mildly or greatly shocking. For me, it was so spooky how everything was falling into place that I bought a powerball ticket the day after the election. (I didn't win)
If you follow Nate Silver, it was more predictable than Kansas football losing each week.
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Old 11-10-2012, 10:25 PM   #23
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The following is a list of companies which have announced layoffs directly as a result of President Obama's re-election.

List of layoffs and closings:
You've always been a bit "out there", but this is ultra-right wing nutjob kookiness. Where did you even get this? And all these places said, since Tues night, that they are announcing the layoffs "because of" the re-election?

Even if some did say that, which I doubt, it would simply be cover for their own failings.
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Old 11-10-2012, 10:26 PM   #24
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So it's not really a cut in Medicare when all your doing is saving money without cutting benefits. That's fiscal responsibility.
Spin it however you want or how you bought it. It was really to fund his own healthcare plan with billions of dollars in Medicare cuts. He said he was trying to make ACA deficit neutral—another lie. It has $17 trillion in unfunded liabilities. Obamacare's price tag is almost double what Democrats said it would be over the first full decade of implementation and it does add to the deficit.

Once the elderly go into ACA, like all such HC systems, the elderly get denied care with the young going first. That's how they control costs—like any insurance company. Only the govt does it by age because that's when most use most of their healthcare.

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Also, Ryan's budget called for the exact same dollar amount in cuts to Medicare. That is what the Obama campaign was referring to.
I have said this before about Ryan's plan...but by saying there really was no difference between the cuts between the two plans. Axelrod covered for Obama by lying about his cuts though. That was to win the elderly vote.

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You've always been a bit "out there", but this is ultra-right wing nutjob kookiness. Where did you even get this? And all these places said, since Tues night, that they are announcing the layoffs "because of" the re-election?

Even if some did say that, which I doubt, it would simply be cover for their own failings.
So you have no argument to articulate, I see. Thank you for ceding the case.

Yeah, I forgot the link. It was to the examiner which links to another site. There's a handful that probably don't belong in there but weren't doing well during the Obama regime. One due to a merger. Or so someone has just told me.

http://www.examiner.com/article/scor...-s-re-election
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You've always been a bit "out there", but this is ultra-right wing nutjob kookiness. Where did you even get this? And all these places said, since Tues night, that they are announcing the layoffs "because of" the re-election?

Even if some did say that, which I doubt, it would simply be cover for their own failings.
Here's the one I found odd: Gomer’s Fried Chicken in South Kansas City

and here's the story refuting kooky bitches assertion

http://www.kansascity.com/2012/11/07...losing-on.html
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So you have no argument to articulate, I see. Thank you for ceding the case.

Yeah, I forgot the link. It was to the examiner.

http://www.examiner.com/article/scor...-s-re-election
No, no argument. Simply saying this information is bullshit anyone who would believe it would have to be a nut.

Link doesn't work.
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Here's the one I found odd: Gomer’s Fried Chicken in South Kansas City

and here's the story refuting kooky bitches assertion

http://www.kansascity.com/2012/11/07...losing-on.html
Wow, a real indictment of Obama there. You really have to read between the lines that don't mention Obama at all, but--oh, its in there.
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So you have no argument to articulate, I see. Thank you for ceding the case.

Yeah, I forgot the link. It was to the examiner which links to another site. There's a handful that probably don't belong in there but weren't doing well during the Obama regime. One due to a merger. Or so someone has just told me.

http://www.examiner.com/article/scor...-s-re-election
I'm not going line by line and refuting each one. However, I'm 1 for 1 and your link is some kind of hokie . You and shtsprayer hook up or what?
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Like I said, you can't articulate your case as to why. Thank you very much. But I am hearing talk of more layoffs on tv and about a guy going to layoff to keep his staff under a certain number to save increased costs of ACA.


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