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Old 11-07-2012, 07:56 AM  
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GOP, 2012: Angry White Men and Their Women

Honestly, that is what the Republican party has become. Think about it...

Think about most of the obnoxious conservatives in this forum: Angry White Men....it says it all. They've been drinking the Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck Kool-Aid for over 20 years now. Is it really surprising, then, that the party no longer appeals to anyone else--especially with their seething contempt and venomous attacks toward anyone who dares to disagree with them?

The Democrats went though a similar thing...between 1968 and 1988, when they lost 5 out of 6 Presidential elections, because they were out-of-touch with the country (too beholden to bleeding heart liberals and minorities.) Between 1992 and 2012, the Republicans have now lost the popular vote for President in 5 of the 6 elections, for the same reason (too beholden to the Tea Party and talk radio addicts.)

Until the GOP admits they have a a big problem, and are out-of-touch, and seek to moderate their policies and rhetoric....they will remain the party of Angry White Men and the Women Who Love Them. They must find ways to appeal to larger numbers of Blacks, Asians, women, and Hispanics--otherwise they are screwed. And they will continue to struggle to win national elections.

It's simple math. Demographic shifts have become political inertia, and the GOP has to recognize that reality--instead of pretending not to notice.

In 1992, Clinton brought the Democratic party back toward the mainstream. For the GOP to turn things around in 2016, they'll need to do the same thing. Whenever political parties are sucked into lunatic fringe politics, they alienate the voters who matter--in our republic, a majority. Republicans had better soon remember the role of majority rule in our country, or they may yet become this century's version of the Whigs.
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Old 11-07-2012, 08:39 AM   #46
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Old 11-07-2012, 08:40 AM   #47
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Good analysis Kotter. At some point the right will have to address the changing demographics of this country. And I will give credit where credit is due Bush did try that is why he only lost the hispanic vote by 10 unlike Romney who lost it by 50+
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Old 11-07-2012, 08:41 AM   #48
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Perhaps later I'll post a photo of Wyatt Earp and you can identify him as one of the Founding Fathers.
That, or why don't you just threaten to leave forever....again.

WTF would ANYONE care what Dick Morris has to say....especially after this election.
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Old 11-07-2012, 08:42 AM   #49
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Good analysis Kotter. At some point the right will have to address the changing demographics of this country. And I will give credit where credit is due Bush did try that is why he only lost the hispanic vote by 10 unlike Romney who lost it by 50+
And the left helping more illegals in the country helps them too. Talk about bribery.
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Old 11-07-2012, 08:43 AM   #50
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That's what I think. They need to get past the anti-gay marriage thing. All it does is get a large % of the population to automatically vote the other way. It's a legal and tax issue, not a church issue. As long as the government doesn't start forcing churches to perform gay marriages then I don't know why conservatives give a rats ass.
Half the reason these Hollywood celebs, talk shows, movies, etc hammer on Republicans is over the gay rights issue. They need to just take that whole topic out of the equation. It's dumb, it's a losing battle, and all you're doing is throwing softballs to the opponents.
Yep.

I think gay marriage passed in 4 states last night.
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Old 11-07-2012, 08:45 AM   #51
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That, or why don't you just threaten to leave forever....again.
I've never threatened to that, you lying piece of shit.

Perhaps you could have another one of your psychotic breakdowns and then later beg us all to be nice to you.
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Old 11-07-2012, 08:47 AM   #52
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And the left helping more illegals in the country helps them too. Talk about bribery.
Illegals who, according to most credible research, contribute much more to our system than they take? "Secure the borders, and deport the blood-suckers now!" is the new racism for those too insecure to appreciate one of the things that has made America great.
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Illegals who, according to most credible research, contribute much more to our system than they take? "Secure the borders, and deport the blood-suckers now!" is the new racism for those too insecure to appreciate one of the things that has made America great.
That's why there's a govt mandate allowing them to not be denied medical care in Emergency rooms.That's why there's a Dream Act in places. That's why Puerto Rican immigrants have displaced the Cuban American and vote for goodies.
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This thread is full of truth. These personal attacks are deflecting from what is a pretty damn insightful post.
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That's why there's a govt mandate allowing them to not be denied medical care in Emergency rooms.That's why there's a Dream Act in places. That's why Puerto Rican immigrants have displaced the Cuban American and vote for goodies.
No...that's politics. I know, I know....you don't grasp politics unless it's 18th Century antiquated crap that only the lunatic fringe gives a damn about today.

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Immigration and diversity are a source of strength, and are not undermining our system--no matter how much the right demagogues the issue.
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No...that's politics. I know, I know....you don't grasp politics unless it's 18th Century antiquated crap that only the lunatic fringe gives a damn about today.



Immigration and diversity are a source of strength, and are not undermining our system--no matter how much the right demagogues the issue.
Are you referring to legal or illegal immigration?
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Immigration and diversity are a source of strength, and are not undermining our system--no matter how much the right demagogues the issue.
Legal immigration, sure. I presume that is what you are referring to, right?
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Change on two major grounds, that I can see:

1. Fight for conservativism instead of regressivism: instead of dismantling the social safety net, support various efforts to make it more efficient without cutting benefits.

2. Embrace pluralistic politics that see value in promoting women's issues, Hispanic issues, inner city issues, and gay issues.

As for how... well. That's for the party to figure out.
Yeah, but then they wouldn't be Republicans. These options are already available to them.
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Yes I am angry this morning, and I am an old white man who's life savings are going to be worthless, due to the inflation from this regimes endless deficit.

The same guy that promised he would cut the deficit in half in his first term.
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