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Old 11-07-2012, 07:56 AM  
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GOP, 2012: Angry White Men and Their Women

Honestly, that is what the Republican party has become. Think about it...

Think about most of the obnoxious conservatives in this forum: Angry White Men....it says it all. They've been drinking the Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck Kool-Aid for over 20 years now. Is it really surprising, then, that the party no longer appeals to anyone else--especially with their seething contempt and venomous attacks toward anyone who dares to disagree with them?

The Democrats went though a similar thing...between 1968 and 1988, when they lost 5 out of 6 Presidential elections, because they were out-of-touch with the country (too beholden to bleeding heart liberals and minorities.) Between 1992 and 2012, the Republicans have now lost the popular vote for President in 5 of the 6 elections, for the same reason (too beholden to the Tea Party and talk radio addicts.)

Until the GOP admits they have a a big problem, and are out-of-touch, and seek to moderate their policies and rhetoric....they will remain the party of Angry White Men and the Women Who Love Them. They must find ways to appeal to larger numbers of Blacks, Asians, women, and Hispanics--otherwise they are screwed. And they will continue to struggle to win national elections.

It's simple math. Demographic shifts have become political inertia, and the GOP has to recognize that reality--instead of pretending not to notice.

In 1992, Clinton brought the Democratic party back toward the mainstream. For the GOP to turn things around in 2016, they'll need to do the same thing. Whenever political parties are sucked into lunatic fringe politics, they alienate the voters who matter--in our republic, a majority. Republicans had better soon remember the role of majority rule in our country, or they may yet become this century's version of the Whigs.
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Old 11-07-2012, 08:32 AM   #31
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The Democratic Party has won the popular vote in Presidential elections every year but 2004 for the past two decades.

That is shocking, how out of touch one party can be.

For the reasons highlighted in your post, Kotter.

The GOP must change.
Perot killed Bush in 92 or Clinton would have never been in office. I love cherry picked stats though. Here is the last 3 decades of presidents.


Since I was born it's went

12 Years Republican
8 Years Democrat
8 Years Republican
8 Years Democrat

Do you sense a trend?
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Old 11-07-2012, 08:32 AM   #32
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Old 11-07-2012, 08:32 AM   #33
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^all TRUE.

They said on TV last night that there was a 'touch of nostalgia' amongst the Obama camp, as he stated that it was 'probably his last campaign.'

Seriously.
I remember when the left was concerned that Bush was going to make himself a dictator for life.
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Old 11-07-2012, 08:33 AM   #34
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Old 11-07-2012, 08:33 AM   #35
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The GOP needs to adopt exactly the same stance the Democratic party has on "social issues" and focus on how it can differentiate itself in other ways.
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Old 11-07-2012, 08:36 AM   #36
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[Dick] Morris said that unless the GOP-ers can appeal to some of the key Democratic constituencies, they won’t be able to win again.

“The percentage of single women, minorities and voters under 30 is so large at this point that unless the Republican Party fundamentally changes its appeal to those voters, it can never win an election,” Morris said.

He continued: “If this candidate in this economy against this opponent can’t win an election with this electorate — nobody ever can. And what the Republican Party needs to do is to stop running in the face of those demographics, and start appealing to them and start revising some of its priorities and its positions in order to reach that vote because that vote is here to stay.”
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Old 11-07-2012, 08:37 AM   #37
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I remember when the left was concerned that Bush was going to make himself a dictator for life.
Yep. It was just as insanely idiotic when the left was saying it then too.
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Old 11-07-2012, 08:37 AM   #38
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I remember when the left was concerned that Bush was going to make himself a dictator for life.
I know!!

It's like, HELLO!!!???
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Old 11-07-2012, 08:37 AM   #39
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Dick Morris really has no shame does he?

this is after he guaranteed Romney would win, now people should listen to him on the direction of the party the next friggin day?
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Old 11-07-2012, 08:38 AM   #40
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Keep pretending to know what you are talking about...that is your schtick.
Perhaps later I'll post a photo of Wyatt Earp and you can identify him as one of the Founding Fathers.
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Old 11-07-2012, 08:38 AM   #41
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I often thought Morris was just trying to influence results in the hopes that people would vote for a winner. There are people who vote like that. Don't know how many.
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Old 11-07-2012, 08:38 AM   #42
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Being a 'liberal' means being a hypocrite.
No, not at all. Being a hypocrite is being a hypocrite.
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Old 11-07-2012, 08:39 AM   #43
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Perhaps later I'll post a photo of Wyatt Earp and you can identify him as one of the Founding Fathers.
Hey! I voted for him in 2006 as a write-in!
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Old 11-07-2012, 08:39 AM   #44
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The GOP needs to adopt exactly the same stance the Democratic party has on "social issues" and focus on how it can differentiate itself in other ways.
That's what I think. They need to get past the anti-gay marriage thing. All it does is get a large % of the population to automatically vote the other way. It's a legal and tax issue, not a church issue. As long as the government doesn't start forcing churches to perform gay marriages then I don't know why conservatives give a rats ass.
Half the reason these Hollywood celebs, talk shows, movies, etc hammer on Republicans is over the gay rights issue. They need to just take that whole topic out of the equation. It's dumb, it's a losing battle, and all you're doing is throwing softballs to the opponents.
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Old 11-07-2012, 08:39 AM   #45
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The GOP needs to adopt exactly the same stance the Democratic party has on "social issues" and focus on how it can differentiate itself in other ways.
That would be a start; ending their run as sycophants for the uber wealthy would help too.
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