Why is there an Electoral College

[synthesis2]

It started in the 1700's when people didn't have access to information and understanding as to what is going on with the canidates but with everything we have today to make a good informed decision, it simply dosent make any sense.

Examples: If you live in Texas and are a democrat your vote dosen't count

If you live in California and are a republican your vote dosen't count

I have never heard a good argument as to why a popular vote dosen't work in today's society.

If the majority of the people want one person but the electorial college says the other is the winner why is that right?

Look I really don't care who wins in the end with divided house/senate very little is going to happen, we all know that.

My rant is why we can't finally go to a vote that makes sense.

[whoman69]

Originally Posted by synthesis2

yes but at least if you are in texas and are a democrat and you vote you know that your vote is going to count toward the end result, where as it stands right now you get absolutly zero credit, vis versa in cailfornia

Just wait until 2016.

[whoman69]

The electoral college is in place to give smaller states a larger say in electing the President. Its also in place to protect against a regional candidate gaining power. Its also in place to make certain there is a mandate for winning candidate even if their margin is a small one.

While I agree the winner take all part is unfair and non-representative, a better system is in place in Nebraska and Maine where each congressional district vote is up for grabs. I think it would put more of the country in play and have more people vote knowing their vote can now make a difference.

[tooge]

more importantly, could the football team of Electoral College beat the chiefs?

[Calcountry]

Originally Posted by synthesis2

We had slavery back then, that isn't the right thing, we have a popular vote for local officials, there is no reason we should not have one for the president

This is a very ignorant and uneducated post.

Try googling the term "Federalism". Start there.

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by whoman69

The electoral college is in place to give smaller states a larger say in electing the President. Its also in place to protect against a regional candidate gaining power. Its also in place to make certain there is a mandate for winning candidate even if their margin is a small one.

While I agree the winner take all part is unfair and non-representative, a better system is in place in Nebraska and Maine where each congressional district vote is up for grabs. I think it would put more of the country in play and have more people vote knowing their vote can now make a difference.

I just don't get those arguments for it anymore? There are no more regional candidates in today's modern world with Internet, 24/7 news cycles, talk radio etc.....people have access to an overwhelming amount of info. No matter where you live, rural or big city.
I know it will,never happen because too many people are for the status quo, but a direct election where every vote truly does matter just makes the most sense in today's world.

I would be all for ditching the winner takes all system as well. The system as it stands now is stupid.

[RNR]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

I just don't get those arguments for it anymore? There are no more regional candidates in today's modern world with Internet, 24/7 news cycles, talk radio etc.....people have access to an overwhelming amount of info. No matter where you live, rural or big city.
I know it will,never happen because too many people are for the status quo, but a direct election where every vote truly does matter just makes the most sense in today's world.

I would be all for ditching the winner takes all system as well. The system as it stands now is stupid.

The left will fight tooth and nail to preserve their advantage if anyone wants to do away with this antiquated system~

[Calcountry]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

I just don't get those arguments for it anymore? There are no more regional candidates in today's modern world with Internet, 24/7 news cycles, talk radio etc.....people have access to an overwhelming amount of info. No matter where you live, rural or big city.
I know it will,never happen because too many people are for the status quo, but a direct election where every vote truly does matter just makes the most sense in today's world.

I would be all for ditching the winner takes all system as well. The system as it stands now is stupid.

Try googling, "The great compromise".

I know that our history and institutions don't mean a damn thing to you socialists, but you can try to educate yourself?, no wait, you depend on the government to give you a REAL education?

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by Calcountry

Try googling, "The great compromise".

I know that our history and institutions don't mean a damn thing to you socialists, but you can try to educate yourself?, no wait, you depend on the government to give you a REAL education?

Huh? I'm a conservative dumbass

[BucEyedPea]

Originally Posted by Calcountry

Try googling, "The great compromise".

I know that our history and institutions don't mean a damn thing to you socialists, but you can try to educate yourself?, no wait, you depend on the government to give you a REAL education?

He's not a socialist.

[Calcountry]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Huh? I'm a conservative dumbass

My bad, except, that eliminating the EC, IMHO, is NOT a conservative position.

[Calcountry]

It's time for me to push away from the keyboard. Deberg, I apologize. When I start to get hyped up, I start posting generalized vitriol at all those who I know are peeping. Nothing personal dude.

[BucEyedPea]

Originally Posted by Calcountry

My bad, except, that eliminating the EC, IMHO, is NOT a conservative position.

It's not. So I can see why you thought that.

[Calcountry]

Originally Posted by BucEyedPea

It's not. So I can see why you thought that.

It's in the constitution?

If you want to eliminate it, fine, then amend the constitution as set forth in the constitution.

[Calcountry]

There are many reasons for keeping it, not the least of which is, how easy would it be for the Chicago and California machines to manufacture votes to offset the few thousand votes of concerned North Dakotan's about their own sovereign interests in their own state?

[whoman69]

Originally Posted by RedNeckRaider

The left will fight tooth and nail to preserve their advantage if anyone wants to do away with this antiquated system~

Without this antiquated system Bush would have never been elected. Romney didn't win the popular vote either.