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Old 11-06-2012, 11:50 PM  
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Entrenched - Republicans make gains in the house...

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When all the celebrating is done, America will wake up to the fact that Obama is facing the lamest duck presidency in the history of politics. The House is deeper entrenched, and the Republicans made gains in the Senate, though didn't flip it.

America got caught like a deer in the headlights, and voted for four more years of gridlock.

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Old 11-08-2012, 08:38 PM   #46
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I knew they had lost some seats but that they still had their majority. The senate switched out some for others but essentially remained the same.
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Old 11-09-2012, 07:09 AM   #47
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I knew they had lost some seats but that they still had their majority. The senate switched out some for others but essentially remained the same.
Dems plus 8 or 9 (depending on Allen West) in the house, +3 in the Senate (up to 55 counting the independents who caucus with the dems)
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Old 11-09-2012, 07:48 AM   #48
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Dems plus 8 or 9 (depending on Allen West) in the house, +3 in the Senate (up to 55 counting the independents who caucus with the dems)
Democrats would have needed to pick up 25 Republican seats to regain control.That's what they were hoping for. They did not regain control of the House despite lying about Medicare cuts which were the same as they were under ACA. Not a bad hold when you consider that.
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Old 11-09-2012, 09:16 AM   #49
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Of course, no one likes a commie except for Massholes.
You really need to get off the hyperbole tree, stop taking a trip down propaganda lane, and empty out your garbage bag of rhetoric.
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Old 11-09-2012, 09:18 AM   #50
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You really need to get off the hyperbole tree, stop taking a trip down propaganda lane, and empty out your garbage bag of rhetoric.
Are you engaging in censorship? She's well known as a Marxist. They don't call it Marxachusetts for nothing. BTW I am from Mass as is my family. There's a reason half of us got out of there. And they even call themselves Massholes.
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Old 11-09-2012, 09:30 AM   #51
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Rhetoric like this is why the conservative movement is shrinking.
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Old 11-09-2012, 09:32 AM   #52
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Rhetoric like this is why the conservative movement is shrinking.
Then you don't know Warren's views or Massachusetts. Mass voters get mocked around the country as being too far left.

Also, I did not vote R in 2004 or 2008 and even voted D for congress in 2006. This shifting of parties in office shows a general dissatisfaction with both parties and not getting desirable candidates. Polls bear it out too.
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Old 11-09-2012, 09:36 AM   #53
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Doesn't change the fact that running around labeling those who don't agree with you as Marxists, socialists or communists is driving people away from right leaning candidates.
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Old 11-09-2012, 09:39 AM   #54
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Old 11-09-2012, 09:40 AM   #55
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Doesn't change the fact that running around labeling those who don't agree with you as Marxists, socialists or communists is driving people away from right leaning candidates.
I don't label them that simply for disagreeing with me. I disagree with them because they are socialists.

BTW polls show that 80% think Obama is a socialist. Currently, people don't like the choices for presidential candidates and are voting against the other as much as for. Polls still show they think the country is on the wrong track.
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Old 11-09-2012, 09:56 AM   #56
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Considering that the expiration of tax cuts and sequestration is looming, and that Obamacare is not getting repealed and those factors together make it very likely that tax and entitlement reform happens within a year, it is premature to call Obama a lame-duck President.

I think a lot of people realize that the GOP went all-in on thwarting progress to make Obama look bad, and Obama won re-election anyway. I think Obama and the Dems will offer them a face-saving way to start exercising their governing responsibilities and deals will get done.
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Old 11-09-2012, 10:01 AM   #57
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Doesn't change the fact that running around labeling those who don't agree with you as Marxists, socialists or communists is driving people away from right leaning candidates.
Right cause, like, “tea baggers” has so much more flair to it.
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Old 11-09-2012, 10:10 AM   #58
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Right cause, like, “tea baggers” has so much more flair to it.
Tea Bagger is a slur. Marxist, socialist, and communist are the names of ideologies.
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Old 11-09-2012, 10:57 AM   #59
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For you lefties demanding bi-partisanship

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Now, as for the "working together" stuff......Scott Brown, the second most bipartisan Senator in the country, was replaced with an unwavering partisan democrat.

That's fine, but it just goes to show how fallacious the claim of wanting bipartisanship really is. Complete crap, as it always was.

This was a point made by a friend on another board.
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Dems plus 8 or 9 (depending on Allen West) in the house, +3 in the Senate (up to 55 counting the independents who caucus with the dems)
Makes no difference does it?
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