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Old 11-06-2012, 11:50 PM  
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Entrenched - Republicans make gains in the house...

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...105928920.html


When all the celebrating is done, America will wake up to the fact that Obama is facing the lamest duck presidency in the history of politics. The House is deeper entrenched, and the Republicans made gains in the Senate, though didn't flip it.

America got caught like a deer in the headlights, and voted for four more years of gridlock.

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Old 11-07-2012, 05:57 AM   #16
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I was wondering how long it'd take before the right started calling Obama a lame duck.

I was going to give Fox N Friends a week.

I should have given Taco John a night.
So far what I've read Obama only has a plurality of the vote. He has no mandate. Google's numbers are better than the msm.
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Old 11-07-2012, 07:11 AM   #17
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The House success in keeping a majority is more reflective of the state by state redistricting of Congressional Districts. It is not so representative of across state deliberations. As such it is an area that the Republican ground game is still working. The question is what happens in two years. That is when a referendum of the House will take place without a Presidential race. Republicans are under political pressure then.
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Old 11-07-2012, 07:16 AM   #18
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The House success in keeping a majority is more reflective of the state by state redistricting of Congressional Districts. It is not so representative of across state deliberations. As such it is an area that the Republican ground game is still working. The question is what happens in two years. That is when a referendum of the House will take place without a Presidential race. Republicans are under political pressure then.
It's a result of Obama's lurch to the hard left his first term especially Obamacare.
Polls showed a desire for different and better candidates.
Polls showed people thought Mitt was better on jobs.
Polls showed the public is war weary.
Polls showed people think the govt is doing too much.
Polls showed people think the country is on the wrong track.
This was not so much a vote for someone as much as against the other. The left is reading this election wrong especially with the lack of mandate and closeness of the results. The country is still divided and did not like the choices.
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Old 11-07-2012, 07:18 AM   #19
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That would be the 2010 success certainly.
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Old 11-07-2012, 07:23 AM   #20
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Old 11-07-2012, 07:24 AM   #21
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I can't believe Bachmann won. Damn.
Americans like divided govt.
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Old 11-07-2012, 08:26 AM   #22
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Democrats so far have knocked off 12 GOP House members — including 10 wackadoodle members of the tea party freshman class of 2010.

Republis picked up nine previously Democratic seats.

Republis gained no ground in the Senate & may end up losing some seats.

Tough to spin that as Republi gains.
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Old 11-07-2012, 08:50 AM   #23
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Old 11-07-2012, 08:52 AM   #24
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Democrats so far have knocked off 12 GOP House members — including 10 wackadoodle members of the tea party freshman class of 2010.

Republis picked up nine previously Democratic seats.

Republis gained no ground in the Senate & may end up losing some seats.

Tough to spin that as Republi gains.
The House will still remain Republican. One party rule is never good.
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Old 11-07-2012, 09:01 AM   #25
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Right? I'm a fiscal conservative, and a civil rights leftist. That's what you call a centrist in this environment, baby...

Don't blame me for being ahead of the political curve. Calling Obama a lame duck is like saying the sun is going to rise tomorrow. I'm not sure what you think he is going to accomplish that he wasn't able to accomplish when the deck was more stacked in his favor.
No you are an anarchist that is slightly sympathetic to the persons you abandon. At least be honest.
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Old 11-07-2012, 09:13 AM   #27
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No you are an anarchist that is slightly sympathetic to the persons you abandon. At least be honest.
No he's a mini-anarchist—not an anarchist. Get it right!
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Old 11-07-2012, 10:44 AM   #28
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No you are an anarchist that is slightly sympathetic to the persons you abandon. At least be honest.
Who am I abandoning? As far as I know, I've got my ducklings accounted for.
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Old 11-07-2012, 11:58 AM   #29
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Considering that the expiration of tax cuts and sequestration is looming, and that Obamacare is not getting repealed and those factors together make it very likely that tax and entitlement reform happens within a year, it is premature to call Obama a lame-duck President.

I think a lot of people realize that the GOP went all-in on thwarting progress to make Obama look bad, and Obama won re-election anyway. I think Obama and the Dems will offer them a face-saving way to start exercising their governing responsibilities and deals will get done.
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Old 11-07-2012, 12:04 PM   #30
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Second term presidents usually are lame ducks. That and a Republican House, if they do their job, helps it more. His coattails were too short.
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