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Old 11-06-2012, 02:35 AM  
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Pro Football Reference's simple rating system and the 2012 Chiefs

Read this post slowly and carefully. Do not skip to the end. You need to fully comprehend the content of this post to appreciate the impact of the message.

The SRS on PFR is a great tool to compare teams historically beyond W-L record. A definition:

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/blog/?p=538

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To refresh your memory, it’s a system that’s been around forever and is extremely basic compared some of the other power rating systems out there. But I like it because it’s easy to understand.

An average team will have a rating of zero. An above average team will have a positive rating while a below average team will have a negative rating.

Every team will have a rating that is the equal to their average point margin plus the average of their opponent’s ratings, so the teams’ ratings are all interdependent.

The Colts’ rating depends upon the ratings of all their opponents, which depends upon the ratings of all their opponents (some of which are the Colts), and so on.
Let's take a look at some SRS for good Chiefs teams.



1968 +14.0
1969 +11.9

1997 +8.4
2003 +8.3



Let's take a look at some SRS for bad Chiefs teams.




2008 -9.2
1988 -5.7
1977 -4.9



Let's take a look at some SRS for bad teams throughout NFL history.

This is the SRS rating for the worst teams these franchises have fielded. Any franchise that did not hit close to -15 or worse was excluded.





2000 Cardinals -15.2
1966 Falcons -15.5
2000 Browns -14.6
1960 Cowboys -14.8
2009 Lions -14.4
1950 Packers -18.2
1991 Colts -17.3
2012 Jaguars -15.5
1972 Patriots -17.4
1966 Giants -16.8
1965 Steelers -18.3
1976 Seahawks -15.1
2009 Rams -17.4
1976 Oilers -16.8


You may have noticed I left out all of Scott Pioli's Chiefs teams.

Let's take a look at those juggernauts!




2009 -8.4
2010 -0.7
2011 -8.1



Ouch. Even when Pioli fielded a winning team, it had a negative rating. Overrated team? Yes.


We're about to get to the 2012 Chiefs. Hang tight.


Are you ready for this, Scott?



YOU'RE NOT GONNA LIKE THIS, PIOLI.



GET READY TO BURN, YOU FRAUD!!!!





The Three Worst Teams In NFL History.


T-1. 1976 Bucs -19.7

T-1. 1954 Redskins -19.7

2. 2012 Kansas City Chiefs -18.4


Hang tight, boys. Eight games left. We can still field...

The Worst Team In NFL History.


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Old 11-06-2012, 11:56 AM   #46
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With all of the positive research that Clay has been doing lately... how in the **** is he still in the negative red rep?


I have lurked for far longer than I am willing to admit, but lets just say GC has a big hole to crawl out of. . That said, Clay is kicking ass right now. Keep hope alive, brother.
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Old 11-06-2012, 12:18 PM   #47
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Old 11-06-2012, 12:21 PM   #48
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ALSO...

The worst offense in Chiefs history? 2011.

2nd worst?

2012.

Worst defense in Chiefs history?

2012.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/kan/

Just go there and sort by the column at the far right. SRS, OSRS and DSRS.
This defense can't be worse than the Grob 32 defense.
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This defense can't be worse than the Grob 32 defense.
I dunno man, they got some stops, just couldn't buy one when we needed it.

This one gave up 50 points to the ****ing Bills. Got crushed by a 2 win Faid team. Just terrible.
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Old 11-06-2012, 12:25 PM   #50
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With all of the positive research that Clay has been doing lately... how in the **** is he still in the negative red rep?
Yeah, I gotta give it to GoChiefs. He's done some good work this year.
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Old 11-06-2012, 12:29 PM   #51
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GoChiefs is just destroying this front office. I've never seen anything like it. He's exposing these frauds and some of our fans get pissed at him for it? ****ing retards. Well done, sir.
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Old 11-06-2012, 12:31 PM   #52
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Even though he was a full-fledged Pioli-smoker and is actually fairly late to this party
You've got to be kidding me, dude.

I've been doing this since late 2010.

"Frauds."

I do apologize for lauding the 2011 draft, though.
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Old 11-06-2012, 12:35 PM   #53
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You've got to be kidding me, dude.

I've been doing this since late 2010.

"Frauds."

I do apologize for lauding the 2011 draft, though.
I wouldn't. Everyone did.
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Thanks for bringing it to our attention.
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Old 11-06-2012, 12:43 PM   #55
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This defense can't be worse than the Grob 32 defense.
Yes it can.

Because Robinson's defense played good teams.

Also, GROB:

2001 - 21.5 PPG allowed
2002 - 24.9 PPG allowed
2003 - 20.8 PPG allowed

2012 - 30.0 PPG allowed

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Old 11-06-2012, 12:45 PM   #57
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This defense is giving up 6.3 yards per play.

The 2004 Chiefs gave up 6.3 yards per play, but 3 fewer points per game.

Robinson's defenses never gave up more than 5.8 yards per play.

And this was with an elite offense force the opposition to try to score more.
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Old 11-06-2012, 01:13 PM   #58
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This defense is giving up 6.3 yards per play.

The 2004 Chiefs gave up 6.3 yards per play, but 3 fewer points per game.

Robinson's defenses never gave up more than 5.8 yards per play.

And this was with an elite offense force the opposition to try to score more.
Robinson's defenses were pretty bad, but this year is another level. At the very least, Robinson's defenses would force an insane amount of turnovers (a byproduct of having an awesome offense, no doubt).

In 2003, we had 25 interceptions and 14 forced fumbles. We gave up a lot of yards, but we turned the ball over a lot.

This turd of a team is on pace for 12 interceptions and 10 forced fumbles; worse than Cunningham's 04 team (which was the worst defensive team I've seen from the Chiefs, until now).
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