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Old 11-05-2012, 10:03 AM  
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What is wrong with you dems/libs?

It's pretty obvious this president lied and sent other people out to lie for him about and cover up what happened in Benghazi. All because he was running a narrative for this campaign that Al Queda and its related groups were diminished and on the run after killing Bin Laden.

The truth coming out is that was not true and the Ambassador had requested more security because of the Al Queda threat and related activity and was denied by this administration. Had those requests been granted, there may have not even been an incident or people dying. Instead he played politics with their lives and now 4 Americans are dead.

Then, when there could be more help for the Americans fighting in Benghazi, it appears so far, little was done to help. Obama bragged to the victims of Hurricane Sandy that no Americans would be left behind, yet it appears he left Americans behind in Benghazi. There are a ton of questions he needs to respond to but so far hasn't. It might interfere with his election.

It's coming out many mistakes were made, and I understand mistakes happen, but what also made all this worse was the lies and cover up afterwards. This is not a party issue, this is an American issue and what is right. It's pretty obvious this president was in way over his head and does not deserve another term on this alone. If Bush had screwed up this bad, you know you dems/libs would want his head on a platter. I would agree he would need to be held accountable. But for many of you your party, ideology, power comes way before country and what is right here. You dem/libs need to look in the mirror and see just what you've become.

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Old 11-05-2012, 10:22 AM   #16
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You can't possibly believe that those are equal situations. One was a specific request for security at a specific location. The other was a warning about an aspirational goal that could have been launched from thousands of airports and could have targeted a nearly unlimited number of buildings.

Beyond that, there's the issue of the failure to effectively react while the holdouts at our consulate defended themselves over the course of 7 hours and then the campaign of disinformation that took place in the following week or two.
The 8/6/01 briefing was also using a specific location that the American government had control over: airplanes. If you read Richard Clarke's book, this wasn't something that was up on the drawing board. Al Qaeda was specifically looking to make this happen.

The scale is much different, yes. But the scale of the damage was worse.

You're right, I don't think they're equivalent subjects. Bush objectively ****ed up worse.
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Old 11-05-2012, 10:23 AM   #17
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I agree Bush screwed up but disagree, this bad.
Benghazi is a worse screw-up than 9/11.

Got it.

And you're wondering why you're about to get your ass pounded in the election...
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Old 11-05-2012, 10:24 AM   #18
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Benghazi is a worse screw-up than 9/11.

Got it.

And you're wondering why you're about to get your ass pounded in the election...
Its a cover up. quit comparing the two.
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Old 11-05-2012, 10:25 AM   #19
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Old 11-05-2012, 10:28 AM   #20
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Bush screwed up over 3,000 times worse, actually.
3,000 times? I told you a million times not to exagerate.
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Old 11-05-2012, 10:28 AM   #21
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Benghazi is a worse screw-up than 9/11.

Got it.

And you're wondering why you're about to get your ass pounded in the election...
You left the part out about Nixon being the last president to attempt to cover up his mistakes.

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Old 11-05-2012, 10:29 AM   #22
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Old 11-05-2012, 10:32 AM   #23
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You left the part out about Nixon being the last president to attempt to cover up his mistakes.
Are you shitting me.

I'm assuming you've read ****ing nothing Bob Woodward has published over the past decade. Because the Bush administration was involved in more than its fair share of wartime cover-ups in Iraq.

Really, Benghazi is an attempt by disillusioned Drudge-heads like yourself to make a legitimate mistake by our State and/or Defense departments to appear to be on the same scale as 9/11 and Watergate, combined.

And that's why your side is going to lose the Presidency and seats in both chambers tomorrow.

Get.

Your head.

Out of the sand.
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Old 11-05-2012, 10:32 AM   #24
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You left the part out about Nixon being the last president to attempt to cover up his mistakes.

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How about Reagan with Iran/Contra, or Clinton with Whitewater and BJ Gate, or W. Bush with the fumbling of 9-11......

Every president we've had, ever, has likely tried to cover up some scandal. All of them.
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Old 11-05-2012, 10:33 AM   #25
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How about Reagan with Iran/Contra, or Clinton with Whitewater and BJ Gate, or W. Bush with the fumbling of 9-11......

Every president we've had, ever, has likely tried to cover up some scandal. All of them.
Somebody get this man some rep.

Common sense deserves rep on the eve of Election Night.
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Old 11-05-2012, 10:34 AM   #26
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Are you shitting me.

I'm assuming you've read ****ing nothing Bob Woodward has published over the past decade. Because the Bush administration was involved in more than its fair share of wartime cover-ups in Iraq.

Really, Benghazi is an attempt by disillusioned Drudge-heads like yourself to make a legitimate mistake by our State and/or Defense departments to appear to be on the same scale as 9/11 and Watergate, combined.

And that's why your side is going to lose the Presidency and seats in both chambers tomorrow.

Get.

Your head.

Out of the sand.
Well, it's turning out to be true about the lies and coverup. You are the one that has his head in the sand and don't want to hold Obama accountable. I've been reading this board since the beginning and if Bush sneezed wrong, you dems/libs held him accountable. Why can't you hold Obama accountable?

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Old 11-05-2012, 10:35 AM   #27
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Well, it's turning out to be true about the lies and coverup. You are the one that has his head in the sand and don't want to hold Obama accountable.
Swing and a miss.
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Old 11-05-2012, 10:35 AM   #28
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The 8/6/01 briefing was also using a specific location that the American government had control over: airplanes. If you read Richard Clarke's book, this wasn't something that was up on the drawing board. Al Qaeda was specifically looking to make this happen.

The scale is much different, yes. But the scale of the damage was worse.

You're right, I don't think they're equivalent subjects. Bush objectively ****ed up worse.
"Airplanes" isn't a specific location. Do you have any idea how many airplanes fly over the United States in a typical day?
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Old 11-05-2012, 10:36 AM   #29
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"Airplanes" isn't a specific location.
Oh yes it is. And it falls squarely within the power of the federal government.

No ifs, ands, or buts.
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How about Reagan with Iran/Contra, or Clinton with Whitewater and BJ Gate, or W. Bush with the fumbling of 9-11......

Every president we've had, ever, has likely tried to cover up some scandal. All of them.
This one is soo arrogant and blatent. For almost 2 weeks, many in this administration came out and told the same lie, Obama even went on talk shows lying to the American people now that we know, they knew right away it had nothing to do with a spontaneous demonstration and video.

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