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Old 11-05-2012, 09:39 AM  
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An NFL insider rips Pioli for letting quality players go

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• “When you are $20 million-$25 million under the cap, you can’t afford to let a homegrown guy like Brandon Carr get out of the building. Carl Peterson drafted him in the fifth round — (GM) Scott (Pioli) didn’t draft him. (Carr) is a bona fide starter and he is young and you let him get away on his first contract without getting anything in return? Go and pay him, especailly if he is so far under the cap. You are going to bring in Stanford Routt, who is getting diced by whoever he is lining up against and expect the same results? Routt can’t cover himself up at night. He is like that great mule everyone wants to ride. They could have had their two corners locked up for at least 4-5 years with (Brandon) Flowers and Carr. Instead, Carr is down in Dallas having a good season. Brian Waters had a great year in New England last year. How many good years (in Atlanta) has Tony Gonzalez had now? Enough said.”

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Old 11-05-2012, 12:06 PM   #76
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]Lots of teams move their #1's guys inside;[/b] I'd totally start moving Flowers inside, or even putting Routt manned up on the team's #2 exclusively while experimenting with rolling double coverages and zones to combat the #1 guy.

I honestly think RAC is too overwhelmed by being the HC on this sinking rat trap to be an effective DC; he's now just going through the motions as a DC, calling what may have worked last year.

Don't get me started on Daboll and this offense...
Typically, they are smaller, quicker guys. Winfield, Webb, Woodson (until recently) are examples. However, Nnamdi and DRC are examples of two different outside players who have great top end speed that can't play inside. Routt to me, would be even worse than those two were.
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Old 11-05-2012, 12:07 PM   #77
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Old 11-05-2012, 12:10 PM   #78
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Typically, they are smaller, quicker guys. Winfield, Webb, Woodson (until recently) are examples. However, Nnamdi and DRC are examples of two different outside players who have great top end speed that can't play inside. Routt to me, would be even worse than those two were.
It's a moot point, anyway - he's the RCB now,(edited for wording) ______ or for worse. We don't have anyone capable of playing the nickel, or of stepping in if Flowers or Routt get hurt.

Jalil Brown is terrible. So is Travis Daniels. And they are the ugly stepsisters to Javier's Cinderella; i.e. they don't even get to play princess for a night.
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It was mind boggling watching those guys run out of bounds again and again and again. I still can't believe it.
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Basically, we have a shitload of guys that should be playing safety trying to play nickel corner. Sounds about right for the New England Castoff Club.
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Old 11-05-2012, 12:17 PM   #80
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Basically, we have a shitload of guys that should be playing safety trying to play nickel corner. Sounds about right for the New England Castoff Club.
So you're saying we'll probably draft another safety?...

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Old 11-05-2012, 12:18 PM   #81
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Basically, we have a shitload of guys that should be playing safety trying to play nickel corner. Sounds about right for the New England Castoff Club.
except Belichick would turn Arenas and Routt into All-Pro safeties, and take Breaston and Terrance Copper and turn them into effective part-time nickel CBs...
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Old 11-05-2012, 12:18 PM   #82
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Basically, we have a shitload of guys that should be playing safety trying to play nickel corner. Sounds about right for the New England Castoff Club.
Basically, we have a SS playing ILB and playing man on TEs by himself for entire games. We have a midget slot corner in Arenas who is not good in coverage (think Tyrann Matheiu but less athletic), and a RCB in Routt who is struggling.

Oh, and our two safeties in Lewis/Elam are not even average. Lewis also can't tackle.

Basically, Pioli has done everything he can to draft and bring in people that can't play man-coverage. Additionally, the guy that is great at playing zone and reading the QB (Berry) is playing ILB in our sub-package.

This team is full of fail, top to bottom.
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Old 11-05-2012, 12:22 PM   #83
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Basically, we have a SS playing ILB and playing man on TEs by himself for entire games. We have a midget slot corner in Arenas who is not good in coverage (think Tyrann Matheiu but less athletic), and a RCB in Routt who is struggling.

Oh, and our two safeties in Lewis/Elam are not even average. Lewis also can't tackle.

Basically, Pioli has done everything he can to draft and bring in people that can't play man-coverage. Additionally, the guy that is great at playing zone and reading the QB (Berry) is playing ILB in our sub-package.

This team is full of fail, top to bottom.

yeeeeelp.

Derrick Johnson...Remember when he used to pick off passes and return them for TDs?? Remember when he dropped off in coverage a lot on passing downs, and Hali would rush the passer a lot??

Remember when we had a defensive back-end that allowed the LBs to fly all over the field?? Remember when DJ covered the TEs and Eric Berry was all over the Defensive backfield??
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Old 11-05-2012, 12:23 PM   #84
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It's a moot point, anyway - he's the RCB now,(edited for wording) ______ or for worse. We don't have anyone capable of playing the nickel, or of stepping in if Flowers or Routt get hurt.

Jalil Brown is terrible. So is Travis Daniels. And they are the ugly stepsisters to Javier's Cinderella; i.e. they don't even get to play princess for a night.
Our starting corner for the Falcons game hadn't played in an NFL game for two years. How sad is that?
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Our starting corner for the Falcons game hadn't played in an NFL game for two years. How sad is that?
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if he had kept guys like

Waters
Barth
Shaun Smith
Ron Edwards
Pollard
Wade Smith
Brandon Carr
Jason Babin
Ill even throw in turds like Wallace Gilberry

lets be honest all these veterans are better stop gaps and talent than Pioli going out and drafting and wasting picks on GUARDS, TACKLES, D-LINE, BAD CBs, every ****ing draft.

These guys fill holes and depth that was already here. he could have spent draft picks elsewhere and taken gambles on potential playmakers because of what he had kept in house.

but he didnt, because he thinks he can find the next Richard Seymour or Mark Bavaro or Matt Light every ****ing draft pick
Only good player on that list is Carr. Even Babin who you guys have been dickriding is having a terrible year. He didn't even play half of the snaps last week.
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Getting rid of those players is fine, as long as you are replacing them with other useful parts. For example, you want to let Carr go? Fine. Now go sign some pass rushers and improve your pass rush so that you don't need to have two highly paid corners. But if you let the corner go, AND your pass rush still sucks, well that's the issue...
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We're replacing good players with inferior ones on our way to the "WORST 53".

What a complete farce.

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Someone pull up Carrs PFF rating. There's talk of him sucking it up for Dallas, but as one who watches all the cowboys games I don't see it. Dallas gives up crap over the middle vs zone but Carr isn't thrown at often. In fact he looks to be iimproved over what he showed here, and he was pretty good here.
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