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Old 11-02-2012, 03:10 AM  
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Peter King: Scouts not impressed with 2013 QB class
Bad year to pick a QB 1, 2 or 3. QBs sinking like stones in eyes of NFL scouts.


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Old 11-02-2012, 03:19 PM   #121
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What if you could deal a 2nd, move back a bit and pick up an extra 3rd. Would you not grab Jones or Thomas in the 3rd round at that point?
I'm not a fan of Landry Jones and would be disappointed if the Chiefs drafted him before the 5th round. I think he's much like Stanzi at this point.

Logan Thomas is an intriguing prospect but I think the ACC is so weak that it's tough to determine how long it would take to mold him into an NFL QB. He's a guy I'll need to see in a bowl game this year and after the Combines before making a determination.
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Old 11-02-2012, 03:26 PM   #122
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I'm not a fan of Landry Jones and would be disappointed if the Chiefs drafted him before the 5th round. I think he's much like Stanzi at this point.

Logan Thomas is an intriguing prospect but I think the ACC is so weak that it's tough to determine how long it would take to mold him into an NFL QB. He's a guy I'll need to see in a bowl game this year and after the Combines before making a determination.
So if a QB you liked slipped to the third, would we have to have acquired an additional 3rd rounder to take him? Would you take him with our only 3rd? Or would you still prefer to avoid having 2 rookie QBs on the roster even if we did get another one?

I suppose it would depend in large part on what's available, but I think a backup QB should really be a consideration there.
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Old 11-02-2012, 03:35 PM   #123
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So if a QB you liked slipped to the third, would we have to have acquired an additional 3rd rounder to take him? Would you take him with our only 3rd? Or would you still prefer to avoid having 2 rookie QBs on the roster even if we did get another one?

I suppose it would depend in large part on what's available, but I think a backup QB should really be a consideration there.
There are so many factors involved. Did the Chiefs address need positions in Free Agency? Is there an immediate starter at a position like ILB, Strong Safety, WR or TE available?

This draft is "supposedly" the deepest at rush backer. If there was a guy like Houston in the third, I think I'd take him before a developmental QB, especially if I have one on the roster.

It's a tough question to answer at this stage. I just hope they draft a QB with the 1st round pick.
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Old 11-02-2012, 03:39 PM   #124
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Old 11-02-2012, 03:44 PM   #125
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Our defense may also go back to the 4-3. so its gonna be interesting. IF they do that, we wont need a ILB. We would need more then likely an outside linebacker if they move hali to DE.

Next year right now is a huge question mark.
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Old 11-02-2012, 03:52 PM   #126
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Our defense may also go back to the 4-3. so its gonna be interesting. IF they do that, we wont need a ILB. We would need more then likely an outside linebacker if they move hali to DE.

Next year right now is a huge question mark.
I really hope they don't go back to the 4-3. I hope they run the 1 gap 3-4.
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Old 11-02-2012, 03:54 PM   #127
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Don't forget that we WILL. Be getting an extra third rounder for losing Brandon Carr and we should get at least 2 other comp picks as well.

Can't trade comp picks, but I'm saying that even if we move our original third for a second quarterback...it's not like we won't be able to acquire more talent.

Also, just cutting Cassel and Jackson frees up over 20 million that can be spent in free agency. No way a new GM keeps those 2 at their price tags.
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Old 11-02-2012, 03:55 PM   #128
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Don't forget that we WILL. Be getting an extra third rounder for losing Brandon Carr and we should get at least 2 other comp picks as well.

Can't trade comp picks, but I'm saying that even if we move our original third for a second quarterback...it's not like we won't be able to acquire more talent.

Also, just cutting Cassel and Jackson frees up over 20 million that can be spent in free agency. No way a new GM keeps those 2 at their price tags.
I know that Routt sucks ass but I'm not so sure the Chiefs will get a 3rd for Carr. Hope, but uncertain.
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Old 11-02-2012, 04:00 PM   #129
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Old 11-02-2012, 04:01 PM   #130
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I know that Routt sucks ass but I'm not so sure the Chiefs will get a 3rd for Carr. Hope, but uncertain.
Routt has NOTHING to do with it. it's all about the +\- count of qualifying free agents lost and signed.

A qualifying free agent is a player that contract runs out and signs elsewhere. Routt was cut, as were Winston and Boss.

After you are up in that count (lost more than u signed) it all depends on amount they signed for and playing time.

Carr will get us a third. Without question.
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Old 11-02-2012, 04:13 PM   #131
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Carr will get us a third. Without question.
Cool. I had completely forgotten the rules.
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Old 11-02-2012, 04:14 PM   #132
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Same shit as every year. QBs lose some games and suddenly the scouts don't like them anymore. Then we'll have the combine and suddenly they'll be in love with them again.
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I really hope they don't go back to the 4-3. I hope they run the 1 gap 3-4.
This.

Really getting annoyed by truefan-esque acquaintances who hate the 3-4 based on RAC's version of it. The 3-4 run by Dallas, Houston, SF among others is vastly different from the scheme run by the Chiefs.
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This.

Really getting annoyed by truefan-esque acquaintances who hate the 3-4 based on RAC's version of it. The 3-4 run by Dallas, Houston, SF among others is vastly different from the scheme run by the Chiefs.
It has nothing at all to do with the true fan, it all has to do with the kind of GM and Coach this team hires next.

My point was. NO ONE KNOWS what is gonna happen and if he is a 3-4 or a 4-3 coach. There is ALOT of question marks when the offseason comes.

Personally, i dont care what the team runs as long as it shows results. something this team really hasnt had in a long long time. Well consistent results.
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Routt has NOTHING to do with it. it's all about the +\- count of qualifying free agents lost and signed.

A qualifying free agent is a player that contract runs out and signs elsewhere. Routt was cut, as were Winston and Boss.

After you are up in that count (lost more than u signed) it all depends on amount they signed for and playing time.

Carr will get us a third. Without question.
Fascinating... I didn't realize that if the acquired free agent were cut that it didn't count towards the +/-

Thanks for the info.
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