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Old 11-01-2012, 08:42 AM  
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No elite in this draft.

According to Todd McShay and Mel Kiper there is not an elite QB in this draft. They went on to say that there wasn't an elite LT, DE or pass rusher either.
After seeing this I thought I needed to share.

So we finally are going to have a top pick if not the top pick and there is not elite talent available for us to pick from. How frigging depressing.
We should of drafted Tannehill last year like I wanted. We would be in a position to draft Manti Te'O. The best player in the draft this season.
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Old 11-01-2012, 04:22 PM   #136
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Every team's in that position who does not have a franchise QB, gigglebutt. It's why it's so important that KC gets the #1 overall pick. If we didn't and a team like Carolina got it instead, you can bet your ass that other teams like the Jets are going to ignore Manti Te'o or Jarvis Jones. They're going to be thinking QB this year. And they would absolutely trade up to that #1 spot and nudge us out. Depends on how they have the draft evaluated.

Are you really telling me that there are plenty of QB draft classes better than 2013's? I named you a whopping TWO. Give me as many as you can think of. Then tell me the odds that those teams that are "rationally" passing on a QB this year will be rewarded in future drafts when they are in the right position at the right time to take a QB in this ordinary QB class that's sooo much better than 2013's. I don't know. Neither do you. I'll tell you in a few years.
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Old 11-01-2012, 04:29 PM   #137
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See, it seems like you're being safe and logical about this when you give those answers, but in reality all you're doing is thinking like the Kansas City Chiefs.

You're doubting if Aaron Rodgers can put it together, and instead going with a much-needed defensive player. You're refusing to take action into your own hands when you have a top 5 pick, and won't settle for the leftovers because they're "risky". You're much more comfortable trading for a backup you know and trust instead of some snot-nosed kid out of college whom you've never met before.

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Old 11-01-2012, 04:34 PM   #138
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See, it seems like you're being safe and logical about this when you give those answers, but in reality all you're doing is thinking like the Kansas City Chiefs.

You're doubting if Aaron Rodgers can put it together, and instead going with a much-needed defensive player. You're refusing to take action into your own hands when you have a top 5 pick, and won't settle for the leftovers because they're "risky". You're much more comfortable trading for a backup you know and trust instead of some snot-nosed kid out of college whom you've never met before.

Your new name is Vailhunt
I apologize for not being clear.

IMHO KC has no option but to draft a QB with their first pick. And maybe their 2nd or 3rd pick as well.
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Old 11-01-2012, 04:38 PM   #139
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I'd take Landry Jones in the third round...if we already drafted Smith, Barkley or Wilson in the first....and I hate the kid and genuinely think Stanzi can be a better player...shit, depending on how the draft fell, I'd think about trading down from our second rounder and take Jones mid second.

They need to fix this qb position PRONTO before this team drifts off to hopelessness again.

We need plan a, b and c in place. Jones would be a good plan c.
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Old 11-01-2012, 04:43 PM   #140
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I apologize for not being clear.

IMHO KC has no option but to draft a QB with their first pick. And maybe their 2nd or 3rd pick as well.
It's not just Kansas City, though. In reality we're no different than any other team who would be drafting a QB this year.

Buffalo has a talented squad outside of its QB. So does Arizona. And the Jets. And Tampa. They're just like us, except they have coaches who can tell the difference between a football and a wad of moldy diarrhea.

It's gotten to the point in Buffalo now that Ryan Fitzpatrick is the weak link on that team much like Cassel was for us in 2010. The Bills aren't going anywhere or doing anything until they replace him.

They're maybe not as desperate for a QB as we are, but that's only a historical circumstance. The fans would be delighted if the Bills drafted T'eo I'm sure. But that's not what they need. A truly smart franchise would draft a QB ASAP if they don't have one. If the Bills pass on one, they're only going to one day wind up just like the Chiefs.

Most NFL teams are smart enough to not fall into that trap.
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Old 11-01-2012, 04:45 PM   #141
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so, we're drafting luke hochevar?
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Old 11-01-2012, 04:52 PM   #142
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I don't understand this...

What do you mean "damn well BETTER be elite?"

Should we not use a pick on a QB because he's not considered to be in the 0.01% of all QB's who have ever entered the draft, which would be only two guys in the history of the draft in the eyes of guys like Kiper and Mayock, etc., i.e. - Elway or Luck.

If taking a QB not named John Elway or Andrew Luck has your panties in a knot, then you should really start pimping Barrett Jones as our pick. He's probably the safest guy in the draft in terms of getting high level performance with the lowest chance of bust.

Me, I'm freaking sick of our QB situation. It's been 30 years since we took one. Smith has all the tools. I'd take him over any QB that's come out the past 15 years other than Andrew Luck. That's okay in my book in terms of the Chiefs FINALLY getting a decent QB prospect of their own in the draft.
I think you took what I said the wrong way. What I meant was: I sure as hell hope Geno is elite. It'd be crushing if the year we FINALLY have the #1 pick, the guy we get busts. I'm with you.
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Old 11-01-2012, 04:56 PM   #143
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You guys are focusing on the wrong thing. We need the Chiefs to go 1-15. Not because it would give us the #1 pick, but because it would guarantee that Scott ****ing Pioli would be gone. Getting rid of Pioli is far more important than who the Chiefs draft in the 2013 draft.
Yeah I agree. It would pretty much guarantee Pioli and Crennel are fired (I'd ****ing hope). 1-15 would mean next year we have the top pick in the draft, a shiny new GM and a shiny new head coach. That would make me feel pretty good about the anal pounding we took this year in retrospect. It would make it worth something.

On the other hand, somehow winning 4 out of our last 5 games, missing out on the top QB prospects, and Pioli and possibly Crennel keeping their jobs would make this year entirely ****ing pointless and I may eat a gun.
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Old 11-01-2012, 04:59 PM   #144
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I think you took what I said the wrong way. What I meant was: I sure as hell hope Geno is elite. It'd be crushing if the year we FINALLY have the #1 pick, the guy we get busts.
That's the thing, though. We're at rock bottom. We're getting the #1 overall pick. It's not crushing at all if our new QB busts.

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Old 11-01-2012, 05:01 PM   #145
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That's the thing, though. We're at rock bottom. We're getting the #1 overall pick. It's not crushing at all if our new QB busts.

I'd be pretty upset if we finally get the #1 overall QB and he sucks. Especially knowing our front office. They are stupid enough to think "Well that's why we don't draft first round QBs!". Like...I honestly think they're stupid enough to believe that if we draft a first round QB and he's a bust. "We're better off getting free agent journeymen QBs!"
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Old 11-01-2012, 05:03 PM   #146
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Draft Geno Smith. Much better tools than any of the 3 and I don't think any of them have "IT" though. The only QB that I've seen with that "IT" factor is Klien who just wills his team to victories but I don't think he will be a QB in the league.

My QB Preference this year: Smith > Wilson > Bradley
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Old 11-01-2012, 05:08 PM   #147
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How can Geno have the "it" factor when his entire team around him aside from Bailey and Austin ****ing suck?

His defense gives up like 6 TD's a game and his OL gets their shit pushed in against any quality defense. You can't fault Geno for that.
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Old 11-01-2012, 05:39 PM   #148
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If you watch the tape, you wouldn't have to take their word for it. There will be alot more people saying it soon enough.
It's becoming clearer each and every post that you live in a ****ing fantasy world.

JFC, as I've said so many times, it's amazing that you aren't a mult or joke account because you are absolutely the dumbest mother****er on the 'Planet.
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