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Old 02-07-2014, 10:49 AM  
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Some undeniable truths about the Chiefs @ 23.

12 facts that are incontrovertibly true, in my estimation.

1. Andy Reid's offense does not require elite WRs.

2. It does require fast route-runners who can get quick separation.

3. Those types of WRs are all over this draft.

4. The Chiefs are relatively satisfied with their play at CB: Flowers, Smith, and Cooper will be their top three guys in 2014, with Ron Parker up and coming.

5. This draft, like most drafts, is pretty deep at CB.

6. The value at QB, RB, and ILB is pretty weak at 23.

7. Probably will be weak at safety, as well, if Pryor or Clinton-Dix are off the board.

8. It is generally not wise to spend two first rounders at safety in a span of five years.

9. It is very unlikely the Chiefs cut Anthony Fasano. It would only save $1m against the cap.

10. Drafting a TE in the 1st round means that either Fasano ($4.5m in 2014), Kelce (last year's 3rd rounder), or the 1st rounder will become the 3rd TE.

11. The Draft value at OL (both guard and tackle) is very strong in the first couple rounds.

12. The value at DL and OLB is questionable, and will be further clarified after the Combine.

At this point, I would say it is far more likely that the Chiefs bring in OL or DL/OLB than any skill position player.
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Old 02-07-2014, 10:51 AM   #2
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Some more facts:

1. You can draft an OL and plug them in right away.

2. The Chiefs do not need a rookie OL plugged in right away in 2014.

3. You typically need to give a rookie DL/passrusher a season or two to learn the ropes.

4. The Chiefs will likely pay Justin Houston next offseason.

5. That payment will put the squeeze on Tamba Hali.

6. That squeeze may end up sending him on his way if he can't make his cap number more manageable.

7. A OLB drafted in the first this year would give the Chiefs the best possible understanding of what to do next year at the OLB position.

I have my money, right now, on DL or OLB.
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Old 02-07-2014, 11:00 AM   #3
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It would be just like the Chiefs to waste another 1st round draft pick so I fully expect it.
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Old 02-07-2014, 11:06 AM   #4
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What happened to GMs just picking the best player available at that spot in the draft?

It's not like this team isn't in need of depth at nearly every single position.
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Old 02-07-2014, 11:08 AM   #5
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I'm suspecting that is where we go too. Lots of good OL talent available at that pick and it also depends who drops. The offensive talent is superior to the defensive talent this year, particularly at the WR position.
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Old 02-07-2014, 11:18 AM   #6
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I don't think we'll go OL with our 1st pick two years in a row. I hope not.
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Old 02-07-2014, 11:31 AM   #7
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Some more facts

I have my money, right now, on DL or OLB.
Given this list of 28 players what 5 players are on the board when the chiefs select at #23?

Teddy Bridgewater
Johnny Manziel
Blake Bortles
Derek Carr

Sammy Watkins
Mike Evans
Marqise Lee
Kelvin Benjamin

Jake Matthews
Greg Robinson
Taylor Lewan
Zack Martin
Cyrus Kouandjio

Jadevon Clowney
Kony Ealy
Stephon Tuitt

Louis Nix
Ra'Shede Hageman

Anthony Barr
Khalil Mack
C.J. Mosley

Darqueze Dennard
Justin Gilbert

Ha-Ha Clinton Dix
Calvin Pryor
Deone Bucannon

Eric Ebron
Jace Amaro
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Old 02-07-2014, 11:57 AM   #8
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Given this list of 28 players what 5 players are on the board when the chiefs select at #23?

Teddy Bridgewater
Johnny Manziel
Blake Bortles
Derek Carr

Sammy Watkins
Mike Evans
Marqise Lee
Kelvin Benjamin

Jake Matthews
Greg Robinson
Taylor Lewan
Zack Martin
Cyrus Kouandjio

Jadevon Clowney
Kony Ealy
Stephon Tuitt

Louis Nix
Ra'Shede Hageman

Anthony Barr
Khalil Mack
C.J. Mosley

Darqueze Dennard
Justin Gilbert

Ha-Ha Clinton Dix
Calvin Pryor
Deone Bucannon


Eric Ebron
Jace Amaro
I highlighted the players I currently think will last to our pick.
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Old 02-07-2014, 12:10 PM   #9
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Old 02-07-2014, 12:29 PM   #10
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Given the attention Zach has been getting I figure he will be gone, plus a couple of guards not on this list;

Not sure if KC stays at 23 when it looks very likely they could drop a few spots and pick up mid round pick or two and still make a good selection in the first.

We need more than 2 players in the top 100 picks, we don't have a second I say they move down and at least a few spots.

With what will be available when the KC is on the board they will be on the phone with a few teams.

Your probably right they just may go DL/OLB but dam seems like a lot of good talent at OL this year.
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If Dorsey truly is a strict BPA guy, then the majority of the points in the OP won't matter much.
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Old 02-07-2014, 02:48 PM   #13
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Who's that? I looked it up and it says Reid Brooks, Freshman.

Someone to keep an eye on in the coming years?
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Who's that? I looked it up and it says Reid Brooks, Freshman.

Someone to keep an eye on in the coming years?
Dee Ford....OLB for Auburn.
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That's weird, they show him as #30 on the Auburn site, but the pictures show him wearing #95.

Anyways... I'll check him out.
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