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Old 10-29-2012, 02:55 PM  
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Next GM Short-List: Who's your pick and why?

There is lots of talk about Pioli getting the boot, but I haven't seen much about possible replacements. Who is available? Who would have a chance at success (not mediocrity) Who makes your short list of candidates?

I am not any kind of expert on NFL execs, but I want one how understands that modern NFL franchises need to build around a franchise quarterback.

I just want my Chiefs back... I miss caring about the game on Sunday.

What say you?
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Old 10-29-2012, 10:33 PM   #76
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Flacco is a franchise QB. No question at this point.
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Old 10-29-2012, 10:49 PM   #77
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I"d still be all in on Eric DeCosta, but Marc Ross would work for me too.
Whatever Milkman says I agree with.
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Old 10-29-2012, 11:19 PM   #78
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That's fine if you want the standard Steelers, Giants, Ravens, Packers response. I'm cool with it.

I think the guy is smart enough to build a team. Look what he did with his own son. And I am assuming he coached up his son a bit as a young lad with the finer points of the game, because he knows what the finer points are.

I never said who I wanted, just not some smart dude with no personnel experience in the NFL.

Last GM hire I was happier than a Slinkee on an escalator since I was one of the many who was pimpin' him before the hire.

I obviously don't know jackshit though.
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Old 10-29-2012, 11:57 PM   #79
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Marc Ross definitely seems like a good candidate.
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Old 10-30-2012, 05:40 AM   #80
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"Thinking outside the box" is how Matt Millen had a job, as well as Marty Hurney (former sports writer).

The Chiefs NEED a GM that's been a proven scout and personnel director.

Not a guy that's never been either.
But he has been a GM. Minor league? Yes. But he does have a bit of experience.

Look. Would he be great? I don't know. Would he suck? I don't know.

No more than I know about any of these other names being thrown around. I do know that all these other guys work on teams that have franchise QB's leading them. And we already know that a guy that works on a team with a franchise QB at the helm can be a little overrated. Fool me once...

I don't want a different version of "The Patriot Way". No "Raven Way". No "Giants Way". No "Packers Way". No "Steelers Way". I want the "Chiefs Way" for a change.

So you can call me a dumbass or whatever all you want. That's your prerogative.

The OP asked for our short list with a reason. I gave mine.
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Old 10-30-2012, 06:18 AM   #81
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Marc Ross has interviewed for several jobs. It's unclear if he was offered any of them. The question is whether or not he is holding out for the perfect job? For example, Mike Tannenbaum, the Jets GM, may get fired this year. Could he be holding out for that one? Why would Ross want to come to KC? Why would he leave New York to come to KC? Does he have a family like Pioli? What would be so great about the KC job? Will there still be a sense of stability in the GM position like years past? I mean will guys still think it's a 20 year job like it was for Carl? Or, will they see an owner with a short fuse? If he's the hottest prospect, he could probably get the money anywhere right? I'm not saying he won't come but, he seems like a longshot to me.
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Old 10-30-2012, 06:58 AM   #82
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Marc Ross has interviewed for several jobs. It's unclear if he was offered any of them. The question is whether or not he is holding out for the perfect job? For example, Mike Tannenbaum, the Jets GM, may get fired this year. Could he be holding out for that one? Why would Ross want to come to KC? Why would he leave New York to come to KC? Does he have a family like Pioli? What would be so great about the KC job? Will there still be a sense of stability in the GM position like years past? I mean will guys still think it's a 20 year job like it was for Carl? Or, will they see an owner with a short fuse? If he's the hottest prospect, he could probably get the money anywhere right? I'm not saying he won't come but, he seems like a longshot to me.
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Old 10-30-2012, 07:16 AM   #83
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“This is the best,” he said. “If you had to give me the choice: Get the GM job or win the Super Bowl, I’m taking win the Super Bowl every day of the week.

“Of course, going through the process, I want to be the guy that comes out on top and gets the job, but I feel confident that my time will come. And if not, I’m with a great organization. I love being here, I love working for the Giants, I love working for John Mara and Jerry Reese. I’m happy.”

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He likes guys with speed & quickness -- Guys like Hakeem Nicks, Vic Cruz, Manningham, JPP etc. so it's going to be a real challenge and long road to victories if he were to take the GM job here.

It'd be great for the Chiefs. I just don't know whether it's the place he would want to go.
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Old 10-30-2012, 07:24 AM   #84
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1. Marc Ross: Vet personnel guy. Has worked with several organizations with recent success. Deserves a ton of credit for two Giants Superbowl wins. He's money in April...on both sides of the ball.

2. Eric DeCosta: He's been instrumental in building a championship-caliber defense in Baltimore. Guy just has an eye for talent. Both through the Draft and in Free Agency.
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Old 10-30-2012, 07:25 AM   #85
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It'd be great for the Chiefs. I just don't know whether it's the place he would want to go.
A top 3 pick and a pile of money might remedy that...
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Old 10-30-2012, 07:33 AM   #86
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A top 3 pick and a pile of money might remedy that...
And a half-dozen or more talented young players to build around.
This would be a great job for Ross.

Every man wants to carve out his own niche.
Ross is unsung in New York. He won't be in Kansas City.
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Old 10-30-2012, 07:47 AM   #87
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2. Eric DeCosta: He's been instrumental in building a championship-caliber defense in Baltimore. Guy just has an eye for talent. Both through the Draft and in Free Agency.
DeCosta seems like Pioli verision 2 to me. Young up and coming guy that is getting a lot of credit when it is mostly his boss doing the job.
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I was sitting here thinking about this today: let's say Pioli gets canned and Clark goes after one of the hottest names on this thread. Let's say he gets Marc Ross from the Giants. Yay, right?

What would your feeling be if Ross did this during his first months as GM:

1) Hire a defensive guy like Perry Fewell to be head coach
2) Decided to switch to a 4-3 defense
3) Decided that no QB was worth a top two pick and elects to draft defense in the first round to improve the pass rush
4) Traded for someone like TJ Yates, Colin Kaepernick, Matt Flynn, or Ryan Mallet and drafted a QB in the 4th round.
5) Let Bowe walk and draft a speedy WR in round 2

How would you evaluate the hire? Let's say DeCosta would do something similar.

Point being, would you be willing to trust any new GM if he passed on taking Geno Smith No 1 overall, or is it Geno or Bust for whoever takes over? Should Clark Hunt insist that the QB be taken (similar to what Stephen Ross and Arthur Blank told their GM's)?
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Old 11-19-2012, 09:23 PM   #90
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4) Traded for someone like TJ Yates, Colin Kaepernick, Matt Flynn, or Ryan Mallet and drafted a QB in the 4th round.
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