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Old 10-24-2012, 03:53 PM  
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Go On Record: Cam Newton, Geno Smith, or Matt Barkley?

If Carolina decides to go a different route with the new GM and decides to trade Cam Newton would you give up the first round pick for him?


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Would you rather go with Geno Smith who's upside could be Aaron Rodgers or Matt Barkley who is polished ready to start day 1 with Matt Ryan potential?


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Old 10-24-2012, 05:15 PM   #76
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People are downplaying Barkley in a dramatic fashion. And much like every other QB that CP has been wrong about, im sure Barkley will have a good NFL career.
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Old 10-24-2012, 05:17 PM   #77
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Geno.
I like cam. Even said he would go top ten before most here believed it, but...


I think Geno is more mentally sound and throws the long ball better
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Old 10-24-2012, 05:17 PM   #78
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That first pass is a perfect example. He kind of flicks the ball, doesn't even really step into the throw - and it goes FORTY YARDS.

It just wasn't very accurate - he under-threw the WR. He throws that over the top and it's a TD.
Yeah that's the thing but to be fair he's been a Qb for 2 years now. I would love to draft that guy but not as the franchise QB. I don't think this franchise can afford to draft him but if you told me in 4-5 years this guy will be one of the best QB's in the league I could buy that. Does that make sense?
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Old 10-24-2012, 05:17 PM   #79
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People are downplaying Barkley in a dramatic fashion. And much like every other QB that CP has been wrong about, im sure Barkley will have a good NFL career.
I don't see too many people downplaying Barkley other than me.
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Old 10-24-2012, 05:18 PM   #80
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Old 10-24-2012, 05:18 PM   #81
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Yeah that's the thing but to be fair he's been a Qb for 2 years now. I would love to draft that guy but not as the franchise QB. I don't think this franchise can afford to draft him but if you told me in 4-5 years this guy will be one of the best QB's in the league I could buy that. Does that make sense?
It makes sense.

I've just gotten to the point where I see plusses and minuses with all of these guys.

I'm ready to draft a QB and don't really care which one anymore.
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Old 10-24-2012, 05:19 PM   #82
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Old 10-24-2012, 05:21 PM   #83
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Old 10-24-2012, 05:23 PM   #84
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I am about half way through that Logan Thomas video and I am yet to see him NOT stare down his first option.

I see a whole lot of option runs and throws to his first target and on a few of those passes, you can see a wide open receiver that was missed.

I am beginning to understand why nobody is talking about the kid.
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Old 10-24-2012, 05:24 PM   #85
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Old 10-24-2012, 05:28 PM   #86
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Old 10-24-2012, 05:36 PM   #87
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There isnt much out of that video that screams "first round pick" except his arm strength.

His accuracy is terrible
His vision is equal to his accuracy
He doesnt go through any progressions
If his first option is covered, he immediately looks to run.
The offense they run probably cripples his ability to develop any tools he may have

I know its just one youtube video, but the kid looks like a third rounder at best and Im not interested at all.
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Old 10-24-2012, 05:38 PM   #88
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That's the hardest thing to evaluate with these college offenses. Rarely do these guys really make progressions.
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Old 10-24-2012, 05:43 PM   #89
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That's the hardest thing to evaluate with these college offenses. Rarely do these guys really make progressions.
Precisely.

Watch film of Geno, Barley, or Wilson and you'll see largely the same thing. That's the way college offenses are designed, by and large.

Hell, watch a lot of film of RG3 at Baylor and you'll see it.
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