Elections Mitt's winning Ohio - Page 3

Comrade Crapski · 10-21-2012, 10:13 PM

Face the music, moonbats. America is sending the communist racebaiter back under his rock in Chicago.

Two new Ohio polls came out yesterday after my Ohio post, from from Gravis Marketing and PPP, both of which point to a razor-thin race in the most coveted swing state. A closer look at each poll shows just how much Romney has gained since the debates, and why he would be absolutely thrilled if these polls were accurate on Election Day.

The poll from Gravis Marketing shows Obama and Romney tied at 47 percent. But that’s as good as it gets for Obama. Among the most interesting tidbits from the poll:

Romney leads Obama by 19 percent among independents, 52–33, and holds 92 percent of his base compared to Obama’s 87 percent. Obama is underwater in job approval, 44–50, and independents disapprove of him overwhelmingly, 31–58. And the poll has a Democratic advantage of 9 percent, which is a 4 percent jump from 2008 — no one believes that Democrats can match their 2008 turnout advantage, let alone almost double it.

PPP (a Democratic firm) released their new poll yesterday showing Obama only up one point, 49 to 48. Just a week ago PPP had the race at 51–46 for Obama. But the four-point gain for Romney is even more impressive when you look at the poll’s findings:

This week’s poll has a Democrat sample advantage of 8 percent; last week’s advantage was 4. Romney gained four points on Obama in a week despite the sample’s having four percentage points more Democrats. Romney leads with independents by 7 percent, up from a 5 percent last week. Obama’s approval is underwater at 48–50, and independents disapprove of him by a 41–54 margin. Last week Obama was in positive approval ground at 50–48, and independents disapproved by a much smaller 45–50 margin. Romney’s favorability has gone from a minus-6 margin last week (45–51) to a plus-2 this week (49–47). Trust on the economy went from Obama plus-5 last week (51–46) to plus-4 in Romney’s direction this week (51–47). Independents jumped from Romney plus-5 last week to Romney plus-15 this week.

These two polls highlight what many saw in the second debate: Romney may have lost the overall debate, but he won handily on the issues of the economy, debt, and taxes. While Democrats were riding high this week after Obama narrowly won the face-off, Romney was quietly solidifying support from voters by commanding the issues that matter most. Based on these two polls, the only way Obama can win Ohio is if he finds a way to greatly surpass 2008 turnout with Democrats, which at the moment seems like an impossible task. If these polls hold, it won’t be long before the state Romney was declared dead in knocks down the last pillar of inevitability that Obama has left.

— Josh Jordan is a small-business market-research consultant. You can follow him on Twitter @Numbersmuncher.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner...ar-josh-jordan

HonestChieffan · 10-22-2012, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

I explained my redneck comments in the 538 thread.

You dont think a presidential candidates religious beliefs should be considered in the overall view as whether they should be commander in Chief?

Think the pacifism of Carter as an example. But as I said clearly as I could, for me personally his Mormonism doesn't matter to me.

Your knowledge of the Morman faith is almost as shallow as your understanding of the tax code. Honestly, you should be ashamed. And consider confining those sorts of comments to a yourself. It only serves to make you look more ignorant than you probably are.

**Dallas Chief** · 10-22-2012, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by HonestChieffan

Your knowledge of the Morman faith is almost as shallow as your understanding of the tax code. Honestly, you should be ashamed. And consider confining those sorts of comments to a yourself. It only serves to make you look more ignorant than you probably are.

Did you just call him a redneck? I find that very offensive.

LiveSteam · 10-22-2012, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by HonestChieffan

Your knowledge of the Morman faith is almost as shallow as your understanding of the tax code. Honestly, you should be ashamed. And consider confining those sorts of comments to a yourself. It only serves to make you look more ignorant than you probably are.

Rep

**BigRedChief** · 10-22-2012, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by LVNHACK

I read your explanation,and it doesn't wash.I find your throwing the term out there offensive and derogatory.

Of course I was being deragotory. I grew up with them. I think you will get over be offended. If not I respect you and didnt mean to offend you personally but, Im not taking back my comments.

Quote:

Originally Posted by LVNHACK

What I'm saying is to throw out Romney religious belief's when POTUS sat in Wrights church for years is foolish at the very least.

IMHO, Rev. Wright and his church that Obama sit in for 20 years was fair game. Every candidates religious beliefs are fair game as to determine fitness for office.

HonestChieffan · 10-22-2012, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dallas Chief

Did you just call him a redneck? I find that very offensive.

No. I didnt. I just find his characterization of the Morman faith to be either ignorant or he just thought a slander was a fun thing. In with case its inappropriate. Rednecks have some judgement. His comment reflected none.

**BigRedChief** · 10-22-2012, 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HonestChieffan

Your knowledge of the Morman faith is almost as shallow as your understanding of the tax code. Honestly, you should be ashamed. And consider confining those sorts of comments to a yourself. It only serves to make you look more ignorant than you probably are.

I'm offended.

**Dallas Chief** · 10-22-2012, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Of course I was being deragotory. I grew up with them. I think you will get over be offended. If not I respect you and didnt mean to offend you personally but, Im not taking back my comments.IMHO, Rev. Wright and his church that Obama sit in for 20 years was fair game. Every candidates religious beliefs are fair game as to determine fitness for office.

Do you or do you not consider it when selecting a candidate? Now you got me thinking that you do.

**BigRedChief** · 10-22-2012, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by HonestChieffan

No. I didnt. I just find his characterization of the Morman faith to be either ignorant or he just thought a slander was a fun thing. In with case its inappropriate. Rednecks have some judgement. His comment reflected none.

I dont give a shit about his mormon religion. What part of I don't give a shit about his religion do you not understand?

**BigRedChief** · 10-22-2012, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Dallas Chief

Do you or do you not consider it when selecting a candidate? Now you got me thinking that you do.

No, not me. It's irrelevant to me. Maybe a Muslim candidate that wants to institute Sharia law will make me consider religion (insert BO comment).

LVNHACK · 10-22-2012, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Of course I was being deragotory. I grew up with them. I think you will get over be offended. If not I respect you and didnt mean to offend you personally but, Im not taking back my comments.IMHO, Rev. Wright and his church that Obama sit in for 20 years was fair game. Every candidates religious beliefs are fair game as to determine fitness for office.

It's good...just rein in the redneck comments....Would you use it as slang if it was another minority ?....I highly doubt it....

**BigRedChief** · 10-22-2012, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by LVNHACK

It's good...just rein in the redneck comments....Would you use it as slang if it was another minority ?....I highly doubt it....

I already said I would rein in the redneck comments about 40 posts earlier on me and redneckism.

**patteeu** · 10-22-2012, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Dallas Chief

Do you or do you not consider it when selecting a candidate? Now you got me thinking that you do.

Based on his comments, my understanding is that he does consider it, but in this particular case after considering it, he's decided that it doesn't matter to him. If Romney were a muslim, BRC would oppose him because he's got the clearance to know that all muslims are terrorists.

**patteeu** · 10-22-2012, 02:09 PM

That last sentence was TIC, btw.

**BigRedChief** · 10-22-2012, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

Based on his comments, my understanding is that he does consider it, but in this particular case after considering it, he's decided that it doesn't matter to him.

GEEEZZZ its fair game to consider. Personally, I don't give a shit as long as its not going to constrict my freedom like the extreme example of Sharia law.

Quote:

Originally Posted by patteeu

If Romney were a muslim, BRC would oppose him because he's got the clearance to know that all muslims are terrorists.

What do you need clearance for? Everyone already knows they are all terrorists don't they?
/I kid

DJ's left nut · 10-22-2012, 02:15 PM

He doesn't have a choice.

If Romney loses Ohio, he has to take NH, Iowa and Nevada to make up for it. It can be done, but it seems unlikely. Hell, even if he takes Ohio he needs to hold Colorado and Florida while winning Virginia.

The electoral college remains a nightmare. Without Ohio in his pocket, it's less of a nightmare and more of a deathblow.

10-21-2012, 10:13 PM
Comrade Crapski Veteran Join Date: Mar 2012 Casino cash: $19427	Mitt's winning Ohio Face the music, moonbats. America is sending the communist racebaiter back under his rock in Chicago. Two new Ohio polls came out yesterday after my Ohio post, from from Gravis Marketing and PPP, both of which point to a razor-thin race in the most coveted swing state. A closer look at each poll shows just how much Romney has gained since the debates, and why he would be absolutely thrilled if these polls were accurate on Election Day. The poll from Gravis Marketing shows Obama and Romney tied at 47 percent. But that’s as good as it gets for Obama. Among the most interesting tidbits from the poll: Romney leads Obama by 19 percent among independents, 52–33, and holds 92 percent of his base compared to Obama’s 87 percent. Obama is underwater in job approval, 44–50, and independents disapprove of him overwhelmingly, 31–58. And the poll has a Democratic advantage of 9 percent, which is a 4 percent jump from 2008 — no one believes that Democrats can match their 2008 turnout advantage, let alone almost double it. PPP (a Democratic firm) released their new poll yesterday showing Obama only up one point, 49 to 48. Just a week ago PPP had the race at 51–46 for Obama. But the four-point gain for Romney is even more impressive when you look at the poll’s findings: This week’s poll has a Democrat sample advantage of 8 percent; last week’s advantage was 4. Romney gained four points on Obama in a week despite the sample’s having four percentage points more Democrats. Romney leads with independents by 7 percent, up from a 5 percent last week. Obama’s approval is underwater at 48–50, and independents disapprove of him by a 41–54 margin. Last week Obama was in positive approval ground at 50–48, and independents disapproved by a much smaller 45–50 margin. Romney’s favorability has gone from a minus-6 margin last week (45–51) to a plus-2 this week (49–47). Trust on the economy went from Obama plus-5 last week (51–46) to plus-4 in Romney’s direction this week (51–47). Independents jumped from Romney plus-5 last week to Romney plus-15 this week. These two polls highlight what many saw in the second debate: Romney may have lost the overall debate, but he won handily on the issues of the economy, debt, and taxes. While Democrats were riding high this week after Obama narrowly won the face-off, Romney was quietly solidifying support from voters by commanding the issues that matter most. Based on these two polls, the only way Obama can win Ohio is if he finds a way to greatly surpass 2008 turnout with Democrats, which at the moment seems like an impossible task. If these polls hold, it won’t be long before the state Romney was declared dead in knocks down the last pillar of inevitability that Obama has left. — Josh Jordan is a small-business market-research consultant. You can follow him on Twitter @Numbersmuncher. http://www.nationalreview.com/corner...ar-josh-jordan
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10-22-2012, 02:09 PM	#43
patteeu The 23rd Pillar Join Date: Sep 2002 Casino cash: $416468	That last sentence was TIC, btw. __________________ "After voters re-elected an administration that added five trillion dollars to the nation’s debt, left 23 million Americans unemployed, surrendered Iraq to America’s enemy Iran, and enabled the Muslim Brotherhood to gain control of the largest country in the Middle East, the one lesson Republicans should agree on is that elections are driven by emotions, not reason." - David Horowitz
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10-22-2012, 02:15 PM	#45
DJ's left nut Gonna take a break for awhile. Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $34516	He doesn't have a choice. If Romney loses Ohio, he has to take NH, Iowa and Nevada to make up for it. It can be done, but it seems unlikely. Hell, even if he takes Ohio he needs to hold Colorado and Florida while winning Virginia. The electoral college remains a nightmare. Without Ohio in his pocket, it's less of a nightmare and more of a deathblow. __________________ It's my own fault for expecting the Titanic to beat the iceberg this year. Pussies.
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