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Old 10-14-2012, 10:20 PM  
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Who were the clowns that claimed RGIII isn't that good?

Seriously, I know there were a handful or so geniuses on here that didn't care for Robert's game.

I might trade our entire draft for the guy.
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Old 10-15-2012, 03:11 PM   #91
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Roger Staubach, Steve Young, John Elway all won. Guys like Tarkenton, McNabb, and Cunningham came close.

Edit: Zorn ran all over the place and was an outstanding QB, although I don't think his teams sniffed a Super Bowl.

You probably meant besides these guys.
Wasn't RGIII hurt already once this year. He will be sitting on the sideline a lot I suspect. He is more of a Michael Vick then an Elway I suspect.
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Old 10-15-2012, 03:13 PM   #92
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I have rg3 on my fantasy team, knew he was a gamer and like to watch him play.
I also think rg3 is going to get broken sooner rather than later. Though he is a pass-first QB he is still a running QB meaning he goes for big runs instead of hook sliding every time he takes a few steps.
He's not halfway through his first season and already has his first nfl concussion. With his style he'll be taking more, vicious hits. Concussion type hits add up.
I hope it doesn't happen but everything points to rg3 being hurt half his career.
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Old 10-15-2012, 03:14 PM   #93
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Wasn't RGIII hurt already once this year. He will be sitting on the sideline a lot I suspect. He is more of a Michael Vick then an Elway I suspect.
I suspect he will adjust his play. I suspect with a better group of WRs he won't have to run as much. I suspect he will be awesome.
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Old 10-15-2012, 03:26 PM   #94
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I suspect he will adjust his play. I suspect with a better group of WRs he won't have to run as much. I suspect he will be awesome.
Running is what he does, regardless of how bad you want to think otherwise.
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Old 10-15-2012, 03:44 PM   #95
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Running is what he does, regardless of how bad you want to think otherwise.
What is your point? All quartebacks try to run at some point. Like I said, he just turns what most guys get six yards from into 60 yards. On the long run on page 3 of this thread, very few, if any other guys in the NFL could have gotten to the outside. Especially no QBs. He was never even touched either. He is not dumb. He will take more care not to get hit. He apologized to the team for getting injured and putting himself in that position the week before. That was awesome. He leads the league in Completion %. You don't do that unless you are comfortable standing in the pocket. He is a pass first, run second QB. He just does the second part insanely well.
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Old 10-15-2012, 03:52 PM   #96
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What is your point? All quartebacks try to run at some point. Like I said, he just turns what most guys get six yards from into 60 yards. On the long run on page 3 of this thread, very few, if any other guys in the NFL could have gotten to the outside. Especially no QBs. He was never even touched either. He is not dumb. He will take more care not to get hit. He apologized to the team for getting injured and putting himself in that position the week before. That was awesome. He leads the league in Completion %. You don't do that unless you are comfortable standing in the pocket. He is a pass first, run second QB. He just does the second part insanely well.
It's already happened to him once, did you miss it?

Running QBs get hurt. If he reins it in and starts hook sliding his odds of not getting hurt improve. If he keeps trying to stretch plays out sooner or later he's going to get clocked like he did last week.
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Old 11-22-2012, 04:17 PM   #97
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I still contend that he's pretty solid.
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Old 11-22-2012, 04:18 PM   #98
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Running is what he does, regardless of how bad you want to think otherwise.
You don't think he throws the ball well?
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Old 11-22-2012, 04:19 PM   #99
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vailpass is wrong because he isn't a running QB. Go figure he can't see past his skin color.
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Old 11-22-2012, 06:03 PM   #101
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honestly, I think that race has a lot to do with it.
I disagree. All of my childhood heroes were black. Most guys on this board would probably say the same.

For me, I dislike uber athletic QB's. They rely too much on their natural ability. This usually means they don't operate the offense the way it's meant to be played and will never reach their full potential as a QB. I like pocket passers. Because they are more dangerous than Vick, Newton or possibly RGIII could ever be.

Look at the arc of Vick's career, minus the prison time. HOT, not so much, and may have been gone even without his prison stretch, then he decides to actually learn the QB position, and does very well. Then, back to playing his game and he basically sucks again.

Newton was hot his rookie year, and lukewarm this year. RGIII could be just the same, so could Geno.

It's not my fault incredibly athletic QB's happen to be black.
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Old 11-22-2012, 06:22 PM   #102
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I disagree. All of my childhood heroes were black. Most guys on this board would probably say the same.

For me, I dislike uber athletic QB's. They rely too much on their natural ability. This usually means they don't operate the offense the way it's meant to be played and will never reach their full potential as a QB. I like pocket passers. Because they are more dangerous than Vick, Newton or possibly RGIII could ever be.

Look at the arc of Vick's career, minus the prison time. HOT, not so much, and may have been gone even without his prison stretch, then he decides to actually learn the QB position, and does very well. Then, back to playing his game and he basically sucks again.

Newton was hot his rookie year, and lukewarm this year. RGIII could be just the same, so could Geno.

It's not my fault incredibly athletic QB's happen to be black.
ya but RG3 doesn't rely on his feet. He thinks pass first and if nothing is there he takes off for a big gain. He's gonna win a Superbowl really soon. I really want to see the Skins in the playoffs because he will be clutch and fun to watch. If they get any talent around him, watch out.

He rarely turns the ball over, is very accurate with his short and long passes. He is not a mike vick, there is no resemblance at all in his game.
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Old 11-22-2012, 06:24 PM   #103
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RG3 might also be the best play action QB in the NFL right now too, he is amazing at it.

I'm becoming a bigger RG3 fan than a Chiefs fan at this point. I'm rooting for him!
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Old 11-22-2012, 06:31 PM   #105
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RGIII has a great future... Very precise, great touch on the pass and he throws it wherever it needs to be, plus he is quite mobile. He is very technically sound and makes great decisions. I would love to have him on my team for the next decade.
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