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Old 09-24-2012, 03:27 PM  
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How do you rank the NFL starting QBs?

Heres my take....whats yours?

Do you consider guys like Schaub, Cutler, Rivers, Romo, etc.... "Franchise QBs" ? (Basically all the guys in the Good but not yet great tier)

revised list Oct 14 2013


Top Tier:
Brady
Roethlisberger
P. Manning
E. Manning
Rodgers
Brees
Flacco


Not yet great, but have upside:

Kaepernick
Wilson
Stafford
Luck
RGIII
Ryan

Good, but have reached plateau:
Rivers
Romo
Cutler
A Smith
Dalton

Jury still out, have upside with question marks:

Wheedon
Locker
Newton
Tannehill
Bradford
Geno Smith
Pryor
Manuel
Glennon




Bottum Rung:
Schaub
Ponder/Cassel/Freeman
Palmer
Vick
Gabbert

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Old 09-25-2012, 02:04 PM   #31
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Heres my take....whats yours?
Maybe a category with "ascending," "there" and "descending" might be appropriate as well. "There" meaning they have reached their ceiling or close to it.
If I were picking, I would pick in this order:
Eli-there
Brady-there
Rodgers-there
Luck-Ascending
RGIII-Ascending
Roethesberger-there
Ryan-Ascending
Newton-Ascending
Brees-Descending
Peyton-Descending
Flacco-Ascending
Cutler-there
Romo-there
Rivers-descending
Palmer-descending
Shaub-there
Bradford-ascending
Tannehill-ascending
Sanchez-ascending
Vick-there
Stafford-ascending
Freeman-ascending
Wilson-ascending
Ponder-ascending
Dalton-ascending
Locker-ascending
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Old 09-25-2012, 04:24 PM   #32
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Old 02-05-2013, 07:50 AM   #33
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So ive updated my list since its end of season.


How about your own rankings? Would you change anything now??
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Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down.

One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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Old 02-05-2013, 08:11 AM   #34
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I can see it being Flacco and Matt Ryan in the Super Bowl this year.
Boom Ch Ka got one of them right and Matt Ryan sure could have made it too. They both have elite qualities.
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Old 02-05-2013, 08:34 AM   #35
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Boom Ch Ka got one of them right and Matt Ryan sure could have made it too. They both have elite qualities.
I like Ryan alot, but he doesnt have elite arm strength on his deep balls. His recievers sort of have to hold up and wait for them to drop at times.
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Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down.

One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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Old 02-05-2013, 08:38 AM   #36
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Old 02-05-2013, 08:44 AM   #37
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I like Ryan alot, but he doesnt have elite arm strength on his deep balls. His recievers sort of have to hold up and wait for them to drop at times.
This.

Matt Ryan is pretty overrated actually.
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Old 02-05-2013, 08:44 AM   #38
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Brady, Brees, P. Manning, Rodgers elite.


Why do you not consider Roethlisberger, Flacco and E. Manning elite?
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Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down.

One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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Old 02-05-2013, 08:46 AM   #39
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This.

Matt Ryan is pretty overrated actually.
For now, Ryan is basically a younger version of Matt Schaub.
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Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down.

One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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Old 02-05-2013, 09:58 AM   #41
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Old 02-05-2013, 10:03 AM   #42
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Vick at the VERY bottom? Whatever lol
My list isnt meant to be a 1-32 ranking. Its just different tiers in no numerical order.

I agree its debatable what category Vick belongs in but hes somewhere in these:



Good, but have reached plateau:

Jury still out, have upside with question marks:

Bottum Rung:
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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning:

Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down.

One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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Old 10-14-2013, 12:01 PM   #43
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Revised my list as of today...Oct 14 2013.

Do you agree? Should Eli and Big Ben still be in the top category??
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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning:

Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down.

One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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Old 10-14-2013, 12:07 PM   #44
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Revised my list as of today...Oct 14 2013.

Do you agree? Should Eli and Big Ben still be in the top category??
No. Definitely not Eli. He was always mediocre, IMO, and this season is down right horrible.
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