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Old 09-15-2012, 09:19 PM  
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***Official Draft Tyler Wilson Thread****

...might as well get this started early.

Perhaps his injury well allow him to slip to the middle of the of the 1st round,..where we tend to draft.




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Old 01-27-2013, 01:32 PM   #1831
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Sorry Bob, but you're absolutely, unequivocally wrong.

ESPN.com provides splits, free of charge, and they track passes IN THE AIR (back to 2002).

Let just take 3 years from each "period" that you've chosen as your sample.

2010 - 64 attempts over 20 yards, 11 over 40 yards
2009 - 48 attempts over 20 yards, 12 over 40 yards
2008 - 62 attempts over 20 yards, 11 over 40 yards

2004 - 71 attempts over 20 yards, TWENTY EIGHT over 40 yards
2003 - 63 attempts over 20 yards, 6 over 40 yards
2002 - 48 attempts over 20 yards, 8 over 40 yards

2004 WRs were Todd Pinkston, Terrell Owens, and Freddie Mitchell. No Maclin, no Jackson.

You're wrong dude, you're just wrong.
I mentioned Owens all along dude. Now, let's see the 20+ attempt rankings like Clay used. Where did they rank in the league? Quit twisting shit and tell the whole story. Post the rankings for every year from 1999 to present

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Your shit has been proven wrong.

You want to begin to establish credibility, then stop being a dipshit here and admit your mistake.
Let's see the stats of how many times Reid threw it deep to Pinkston and Thrash or Charles Johnson and Torrence Small. I've been asking for it all along. My first response to Clayton's post started with "you can't just pick and choose stats."

If he is going to make an argument, start from the beginning. Andy Reid was a coach there for 14 years and he picked all the years they had their best deep threat in his tenure.

I won't resort to name calling but, you are way off here.

I am done with this argument. The point was that Geno is not any better of a prospect than Wilson for Reid's offense.

Let's get back to talking about Wilson as this is a Wilson thread.

Can you Geno ball washers do that?

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Old 01-27-2013, 01:40 PM   #1832
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I mentioned Owens all along dude. Now, let's see the 20+ attempts rankings like Clay used.



Let's see the stats of how many times Reid threw it deep to Pinkston and Thrash or Charles Johnson and Torrence Small. I've been asking for it all along. My first response to Clayton's post started with "you can't just pick and choose stats."

If he is going to make an argument, start from the beginning. Andy Reid was a coach there for 14 years and he picked all the years they had their best deep threat in his tenure.

I won't resort to name calling but, you are way off here.

I am done with this argument. The point was that Geno is not any better of a prospect than Wilson for Reid's offense.

Let's get back to talking about Wilson as this is a Wilson thread.

Can you Geno ball washers do that?
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Old 01-27-2013, 01:41 PM   #1833
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Old 01-27-2013, 01:41 PM   #1834
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Old 01-27-2013, 01:46 PM   #1835
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The attempts over 20 yards in '02, '03, and '04 are equal to or higher than the numbers in '08, '09, '10, when the league had evolved more to a pssing league.

There's no way those attempts are not top 10 on those years.
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Old 01-27-2013, 01:48 PM   #1836
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Again, he went back to like 2007 which is five out of 14 years in Philly. He had speed during that time. My point is that Reid uses the tools he has and doesn't force his offense. I can't say it any other way. It's time to move on...
I included 2004, 2003, and 2002.

Admit you are wrong.
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Old 01-27-2013, 01:48 PM   #1837
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This guy absurdly deserves a ban. He's shit on thread over a d over then turns it on others


It's awful and needs to stop
It's easier to just not respond to it.

I'd like to kill it with fire, though.
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Old 01-27-2013, 01:49 PM   #1838
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Here's an idea: how about you do your own research to prove your point?
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Old 01-27-2013, 01:50 PM   #1839
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The attempts over 20 yards in '02, '03, and '04 are equal to or higher than the numbers in '08, '09, '10, when the league had evolved more to a pssing league.

There's no way those attempts are not top 10 on those years.
Horseshit. Show the league rankings or you have no argument. You are spinning this shit. The argument is 20+ yard pass attempt league rankings vs. talent with speed vs. yards passing average.

That's been the comparison all day and you started this. I have catered to you all day and you have nothing.
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Yeah, no shit man. I am tired of doing all the work and being twisted around.

People are way to liberal on stats here. If you are going to use them, tell the whole story.
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Old 01-27-2013, 01:55 PM   #1841
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Here are Donovan McNabb's ATTEMPTS over 20 yards for every year of his career.

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Year	Team	20
2011	Minnesota Vikings	14
		
2010	Washington Redskins	41
		
2009	Philadelphia Eagles	55
		
2008	Philadelphia Eagles	52
		
2007	Philadelphia Eagles	35
		
2006	Philadelphia Eagles	44
		
2005	Philadelphia Eagles	27
		
2004	Philadelphia Eagles	50
		
2003	Philadelphia Eagles	44
		
2002	Philadelphia Eagles	27
		
2001	Philadelphia Eagles	44
		
2000	Philadelphia Eagles	45
		
1999	Philadelphia Eagles	7
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Old 01-27-2013, 01:55 PM   #1842
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Horseshit. Show the league rankings or you have no argument. You are spinning this shit. The argument is 20+ yard pass attempt league rankings vs. talent with speed vs. yards passing average.

That's been the comparison all day and you started this. I have catered to you all day and you have nothing.
No, the argument has been that Reid likes to go downfield with the ball.

You are the one that has been spinning, and you continue to do so, rather that admit your error.

Good luck with credibility, dipshit.

You'll never have any.
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Old 01-27-2013, 01:56 PM   #1843
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Yeah, no shit man. I am tired of doing all the work and being twisted around.

People are way to liberal on stats here. If you are going to use them, tell the whole story.


You just going to play if off are ya?

Admit you're wrong and move on.

How hard can it be? If you're MAN enough...
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No, the argument has been that Reid likes to go downfield with the ball.

You are the one that has been spinning, and you continue to do so, rather that admit your error.

Good luck with credibility, dipshit.

You'll never have any.
I admit I'm wrong when I'm wrong. Don't cop out now. You are the one losing credibility. Do I have to cite every quote to show you are pussing out?

hitsmaqe, post a link to the split stats. Let me see the rankings.
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Old 01-27-2013, 01:59 PM   #1845
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Don't cop out now. You are the one losing credibility. Do I have to site every quote to show you are pussing out?

hitsmaqe, post a link to the split stats. Let me see the rankings.


Use Google ****face. I found them on ESPN AND NFL.com.

Furthermore, why do you care what the rankings are? Gonna try to move the goalposts again.

Let's recap:

You said Andy Reid's offense didn't throw the ball deep until the got fast WRs.

As the 20+ yard attempts CLEARLY shows, you're wrong.

Seriously, own up or go away.
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