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Old 09-02-2012, 04:39 PM  
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ROn Paul Might Run 3rd Party

I spoke with Dr. Paul this afternoon about continuing the fight by running on a third party ticket. I want to share what he said to me and let you know what needs to be done to make this happen. It can happen, but it's going to take some work. If you are willing to support this effort, please share this event and call in:


Mitt Romney won't stand a chance at being president if RP runs 3rd party

http://www.dailypaul.com/252900/upda...sident+2012%29



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Old 09-03-2012, 11:09 AM   #121
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Old 09-03-2012, 11:14 AM   #122
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So you people all secretly endorse Obama. Interesting.
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Y'all are secretly endorsing the same policies ergo no difference except the party and the person's name.

Please read. Or share a nervous laugh with Donger.
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Old 09-03-2012, 11:44 AM   #123
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Old 09-03-2012, 12:40 PM   #124
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Exactly what you were doing Mr. Pot. Look at how you addressed him.
Post fail...I did not address in any way similar to how you addressed me. I did not imply he failed to know how to read, and I did not insult him in any way. Based on his reply, he did not see anything in said post that offended him. Keep riding that high horse though.
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Old 09-03-2012, 01:54 PM   #125
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Post fail...I did not address in any way similar to how you addressed me. I did not imply he failed to know how to read, and I did not insult him in any way. Based on his reply, he did not see anything in said post that offended him. Keep riding that high horse though.
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Old 09-03-2012, 02:07 PM   #126
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Y'all are secretly endorsing the same policies ergo no difference except the party and the person's name.

Please read. Or share a nervous laugh with Donger.
People who vote third party for the sake of it are the same as people voting Democrat or Republican for the sake of it. They just act more indignant because of it.
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Old 09-03-2012, 02:29 PM   #127
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Strawman

Y'all are secretly endorsing the same policies ergo no difference except the party and the person's name.

Please read. Or share a nervous laugh with Donger.
Kitten, I have never been nor never will be nervous about Ron Paul. He's a kook and he attracts kooks, but that isn't any reason to be nervous about him or them.

So, no, that isn't nervous laughter; it's just laughter. I'm laughing at Paul, you and every other Paul follower, as well as that "Revolution" you delusional types actually think is coming or ever will come.

Clear now?
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Old 09-03-2012, 02:31 PM   #128
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People who vote third party for the sake of it are the same as people voting Democrat or Republican for the sake of it. They just act more indignant because of it.
Nails on the money. I truly wish there was a viable third party. Many people fall in between the two parties. Removing the wingers who can only see one side of a discussion a very large amount of us find common ground with people who are in the other party. You and I are an example of this. We disagree often but agree on enough that would could work together and get some things done. NewChief, gobowe, pat, Goblow, Flop, Donger, Brock, stevieray and Directshun are a few that jump to mind of people who I disagree on some things yet still feel we could work together and accomplish something~
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Old 09-03-2012, 04:08 PM   #129
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4 more of Obama and then a new R candidate vs. 8 of Mitt (as the R candidate).
You are putting a ton of faith in the idea that this fiscal cliff actually exists. And that the Ron Paul movement is actually going to start sweeping up followers from outside of a very small niche group. It's not going to happen.

The economy is going to pick up in the next 4 years. We're not going to slip into another recession. And as the economy picks up, Obama will get credit and the Republicans will be blamed for stonewalling. And meanwhile, nothing will ever be done to address massively escalating entitlements. That then sets up Hilary Clinton, who is going to be a very tough rival to beat.

I'm sorry, but people are absolutely naive if they think there wasn't a better time in this country to fix our fiscal issues. Fiscal conservatism is going to be a much tougher platform to run on in 2016. Ron Paul is going to lose a ton of disciples once young people start getting jobs again.
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Old 09-03-2012, 04:37 PM   #130
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You are putting a ton of faith in the idea that this fiscal cliff actually exists. And that the Ron Paul movement is actually going to start sweeping up followers from outside of a very small niche group. It's not going to happen.

The economy is going to pick up in the next 4 years. We're not going to slip into another recession. And as the economy picks up, Obama will get credit and the Republicans will be blamed for stonewalling. And meanwhile, nothing will ever be done to address massively escalating entitlements. That then sets up Hilary Clinton, who is going to be a very tough rival to beat.

I'm sorry, but people are absolutely naive if they think there wasn't a better time in this country to fix our fiscal issues. Fiscal conservatism is going to be a much tougher platform to run on in 2016. Ron Paul is going to lose a ton of disciples once young people start getting jobs again.
There is no guarantee the economy is going to pick up in the next four years, particularly if Obama wins a second term.
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Old 09-03-2012, 04:43 PM   #131
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There is no guarantee the economy is going to pick up in the next four years, particularly if Obama wins a second term.
I agree that there's no guarantee, but the chances that the natural business cycle and the determination of American capitalists will overcome the economic morass created by the Obama administration over the next few years are far greater than the chances that Obama will face the entitlement time bomb that's headed our way with any real seriousness.

The real question will be how close is any growth that might take place in a 2nd Obama term to the maximum growth that was possible and, IMO, it's very unlikely to be close.
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Old 09-03-2012, 05:12 PM   #132
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I agree that there's no guarantee, but the chances that the natural business cycle and the determination of American capitalists will overcome the economic morass created by the Obama administration over the next few years are far greater than the chances that Obama will face the entitlement time bomb that's headed our way with any real seriousness.

The real question will be how close is any growth that might take place in a 2nd Obama term to the maximum growth that was possible and, IMO, it's very unlikely to be close.
Could be, or American capitalists could merely stockpile cash and assets and ride out the storm, rather than invest and create jobs. An Obama victory means continued uncertainty, and businesses will certainly prepare for worst case scenarios.

And I completely agree with the bolded part of your statement. A 2nd Obama term rules out any chance of achieving maximum growth.
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Old 09-03-2012, 06:32 PM   #133
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