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Old 08-31-2012, 06:24 PM  
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Old 10-02-2012, 02:26 PM   #211
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Who is misunderstanding? You can't seem to answer the questions.
You. You are misunderstanding evolution, when you implied that evolution means we come from rocks. That's not what evolution did.
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Old 10-02-2012, 02:28 PM   #212
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You. You are misunderstanding evolution, when you implied that evolution means we come from rocks. That's not what evolution did.
No, i was throwing that out there as a possible direction you could move and thus far you haven't budged from stating nothing.
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Old 10-02-2012, 02:31 PM   #213
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No, i was throwing that out there as a possible direction you could move and thus far you haven't budged from stating nothing.
"Provide me with clear evidence for the big bang or how we evolved from rocks..i'm waiting."

So you were not implying that evolutionists posit that humans evolved from rocks?
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Old 10-02-2012, 02:33 PM   #214
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"Provide me with clear evidence for the big bang or how we evolved from rocks..i'm waiting."

So you were not implying that evolutionists posit that humans evolved from rocks?
I was implying what i just posted, it's a possible direction you could move. Feel free to set me straight there Lit.
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Old 10-02-2012, 02:34 PM   #215
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I was implying what i just posted, it's a possible direction you could move. Feel free to set me straight there Lit.
Evolutionists do not argue that people evolved from rocks. Are you straight now?
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Evolutionists do not argue that people evolved from rocks. Are you straight now?
No, explain where then? I have my BELIEFS from the bible, maybe it was all just so convenient and we just appeared here.
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No, explain where then? I have my BELIEFS from the bible, maybe it was all just so convenient and we just appeared here.
You've read the Bible, but have you read some literature from an evolutionary biologist?
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Old 10-02-2012, 02:43 PM   #218
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You've read the Bible, but have you read some literature from an evolutionary biologist?
Sure i've read some, now can YOU answer the question?

Let's start at Billions of years ago....This assumes facts that are not in evidence yet it's taught as gospel.
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Old 10-02-2012, 02:45 PM   #219
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There are many atheists who think the big bang is bunk, and I think you are moving the goalposts by stating Evolution simply explains the changes to each specific species over time.
You've made very clear your understanding of evolution. And it's such that I'm not sure you really know where the goalposts were to begin with. Or where the playing field is at for that matter. How could you claim to define evolution correctly if you can't even tell the difference between organic and inorganic material?

Here I'll start you out with the Webster Dictionary definition of biological evolution:

a : the historical development of a biological group (as a race or species) : phylogeny
b : a theory that the various types of animals and plants have their origin in other preexisting types and that the distinguishable differences are due to modifications in successive generations

Here's a quick description from an online encyclopedia:

evolution noun (Concise Encyclopedia)
Biological theory that animals and plants have their origin in other preexisting types and that the distinguishable differences are due to modifications in successive generations. It is one of the keystones of modern biological theory. In 1858 Charles Darwin and Alfred Russel Wallace jointly published a paper on evolution. The next year Darwin presented his major treatise On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, which revolutionized all later biological study. The heart of Darwinian evolution is the mechanism of natural selection. Surviving individuals, which vary (see variation) in some way that enables them to live longer and reproduce, pass on their advantage to succeeding generations. In 1937 Theodosius Dobzhansky applied Mendelian genetics (see Gregor Mendel) to Darwinian theory, contributing to a new understanding of evolution as the cumulative action of natural selection on small genetic variations in whole populations. Part of the proof of evolution is in the fossil record, which shows a succession of gradually changing forms leading up to those known today. Structural similarities and similarities in embryonic development among living forms also point to common ancestry. Molecular biology (especially the study of genes and proteins) provides the most detailed evidence of evolutionary change. Though the theory of evolution is accepted by nearly the entire scientific community, it has sparked much controversy from Darwin's time to the present; many of the objections have come from religious leaders and thinkers (see creationism) who believe that elements of the theory conflict with literal interpretations of the Bible.
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You've made very clear your understanding of evolution. And it's such that I'm not sure you really know where the goalposts were to begin with. Or where the playing field is at for that matter. How could you claim to define evolution correctly if you can't even tell the difference between organic and inorganic material?

Here I'll start you out with the Webster Dictionary definition of biological evolution:

a : the historical development of a biological group (as a race or species) : phylogeny
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evolution noun (Concise Encyclopedia)
Biological theory that animals and plants have their origin in other preexisting types and that the distinguishable differences are due to modifications in successive generations. It is one of the keystones of modern biological theory. In 1858 Charles Darwin and Alfred Russel Wallace jointly published a paper on evolution. The next year Darwin presented his major treatise On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, which revolutionized all later biological study. The heart of Darwinian evolution is the mechanism of natural selection. Surviving individuals, which vary (see variation) in some way that enables them to live longer and reproduce, pass on their advantage to succeeding generations. In 1937 Theodosius Dobzhansky applied Mendelian genetics (see Gregor Mendel) to Darwinian theory, contributing to a new understanding of evolution as the cumulative action of natural selection on small genetic variations in whole populations. Part of the proof of evolution is in the fossil record, which shows a succession of gradually changing forms leading up to those known today. Structural similarities and similarities in embryonic development among living forms also point to common ancestry. Molecular biology (especially the study of genes and proteins) provides the most detailed evidence of evolutionary change. Though the theory of evolution is accepted by nearly the entire scientific community, it has sparked much controversy from Darwin's time to the present; many of the objections have come from religious leaders and thinkers (see creationism) who believe that elements of the theory conflict with literal interpretations of the Bible.
So where did life begin? Do you believe in Micro/Macro Evolution?
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No, explain where then? I have my BELIEFS from the bible, maybe it was all just so convenient and we just appeared here.
The Theory of Evolution has never provided an answer for "Where". That's the point.
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Sure i've read some
What evolutionary literature have you read?
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What evolutionary literature have you read?
I've read excerpts from some, did you have an answer? A Theory? A belief to share with me?
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The Theory of Evolution has never provided an answer for "Where". That's the point.
So how can we be so sure it's correct if it isn't repeatable?

Let's start with something simple that is taught as gospel...

Billions of years ago...

How is that scientific? and not based upon belief?
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Kind=Species

My argument still stands.
I'm asking for your definition of species. A = B = C is not a definition.

If species = kind, then what's your definition of kind?
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