Why people laugh at Creationists

[Dave Lane]

Taking a lead from Killer Clown I thought I'd create a alternative thread to post some videos I like...

[EDIT New video here]

So on with the show:

Here's the Kent Hovind Theory:



"Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it.
Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many.
Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books.
Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders.
Do not believe in traditions simply because they have been handed down for many generations.
But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it."

[|Zach|]

Originally Posted by LiL stumppy

Yes I have, numerous times actually.

Human made forumla, must be 100 percent accurate I assume.

Gotcha. So because we are humans we are unable to glean any scientific knowledge in the world at all...because everything we create is a human formula...right?

[LiL stumppy]

You can throw out forumlas on how evoultion has been a proven fact, when yet they are all man made formulas.

It goes back to basic philosophy, who's to say 1 plus 1 is 2..

Carbon dating was created by a man years ago, your putting 100 % trust in a single, imperfect human being.

[|Zach|]

Originally Posted by LiL stumppy

You can throw out forumlas on how evoultion has been a proven fact,

Again, you are showing the most BASIC misunderstanding of this conversation. You simply don't know what you are talking about.

Evolution is not being presented by science as fact.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by LiL stumppy

My point being there as many of holes in the evoultion and bang theory as there is in creation and a higher being that many people like to instantly jump to.

People cannot phathom a higher being, that created everything.. Yet they can phatom and believe that we all evolved from a lesser being, a more unintelligent animal per say.. AFTER, a bang in outer space made us possible. It's quite ironic.

The complexity of our very life, every aspect of it... The human eye, feelings, jealousy, anger is what makes creation more feasable in my mind..

I am not jumping anyones beliefs, thats just my opinion.

Again.... what holes? Please clarify. Something close to an example? I'm not trying to be a dick, I'm curious what you think is evidence against evolution.

[LiL stumppy]

Originally Posted by |Zach|

Gotcha. So because we are humans we are unable to glean any scientific knowledge in the world at all...because everything we create is a human formula...right?

Not so much, but I refuse to believe a mathmatic formula made by a man I have never met,who is not perfect, to prove how life came about.

[|Zach|]

Originally Posted by LiL stumppy

Not so much, but I refuse to believe a mathmatic formula made by a man I have never met,who is not perfect, to prove how life came about.

Where is the line? Where can science prove information and then not prove information? What exactly is the point where science is useless?

[|Zach|]

Originally Posted by |Zach|

Again, you are showing the most BASIC misunderstanding of this conversation. You simply don't know what you are talking about.

Evolution is not being presented by science as fact.

A scientific theory is "a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment."Scientists create scientific theories from hypotheses that have been corroborated through the scientific method, then gather evidence to test their accuracy. As with all forms of scientific knowledge, scientific theories are inductive in nature and do not make apodictic propositions; instead, they aim for predictive and explanatory force.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by LiL stumppy

Evidence so factual it still has yet to proven by any body on this universe?

Its a trick question, neither can be PROVED in any way. You either believe our lives came from absolutley nothing, or they came from something. One takes faith, one takes people telling you what to believe. I admire any choice anyone wants. But until some can explain to me how a life form as complex as the human body, came from literal 0, thennn I refuse to believe it because my science professor wants to shove it down my throat Big Brother like.

You can ask the exact same question of religion. How did a God come from literal 0? Why would you choose to believe that instead?

What's the definition of faith? Believing what someone else told you, despite there being no evidence for it? At least there's evidence on science's side.....

[cosmo20002]

Originally Posted by LiL stumppy

Not so much, but I refuse to believe a mathmatic formula made by a man I have never met,who is not perfect, to prove how life came about.

You met the men who wrote the Bible?

[|Zach|]

And......





.....gone.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by LiL stumppy

Empirical evidence is by abserving "evidence"... If it's the human eye that is observing a particular thing (i.e. something evolving) it will be an imperfect observation, since no human is perfect. Which means one thing... Its an opinion. Not a fact, evolution has not been tested over and over and been proven to be 100 percent accurate. Sorry

Creation is based on 2000 year old stories, written by man.

Evolution is based on 300 year old stories, written by man, but validated by repeated experimentation and observation which can be reproduced. Which is supported by many independent validation methods.

There is a difference.

Say I ask you to put your hand down on the table. I raise a hammer, and strike your hand as hard as I can. Then 30 minutes later, I ask you to put your hand down on the table again. I raise the hammer, and then tell you one of two things is going to happen. Either your hand is going to hurt again, or your hand is going to disappear to eternal paradise and you won't feel anything. Something tells me you'd pull your hand away when I swung....

[ReynardMuldrake]

Originally Posted by LiL stumppy

Not so much, but I refuse to believe a mathmatic formula made by a man I have never met,who is not perfect, to prove how life came about.

Just so I understand, you refuse to believe 1+1=2 because it comes from MATH instead of your religion?

If everyone thought like that, there would be no scientific discovery or invention because hey, we already know everything there is to know about the universe, right?

[Dave Lane]

Originally Posted by LiL stumppy

You can throw out forumlas on how evoultion has been a proven fact, when yet they are all man made formulas.

It goes back to basic philosophy, who's to say 1 plus 1 is 2..

Carbon dating was created by a man years ago, your putting 100 % trust in a single, imperfect human being.

Boy it's interesting the difference in intellect between the believers and the apologists, just in this thread. Poor Lil Stumpy trying so hard to get to a 90 IQ. He is actually smarter than most apologists in this thread.

[Dave Lane]

I'm not going to be happy with this swerve by Lil Stupy er Stumpy in this thread until listopencil weighs in..

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by LiL stumppy

Not so much, but I refuse to believe a mathmatic formula made by a man I have never met,who is not perfect, to prove how life came about.

You still don't know that evolution has nothing to do with the origins of life...did you know that you can believe in creation but still accept the truths of the theory of evolution? You can even accept that 1+1=2!

But don't worry, your tactic of misinterpreting and misrepresenting evolution is common amongst those who simply refuse to accept it.