Why people laugh at Creationists

[Dave Lane]

Taking a lead from Killer Clown I thought I'd create a alternative thread to post some videos I like...

[EDIT New video here]

So on with the show:

Here's the Kent Hovind Theory:



"Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it.
Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many.
Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books.
Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders.
Do not believe in traditions simply because they have been handed down for many generations.
But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it."

[phisherman]

You'll just have to accept that facts take precedence over dogma for some people. I'm not going to call you a moron if you have "the faith". Different strokes.

[Dave Lane]

Originally Posted by CLX

So you don't have a concrete answer? How many monkeys do you know that live in houses on your block? Should I have said apes? Chimpanzees? Spider Monkeys? The end of the story is that man did not evolve from the apes, or from fish. If that were factual the "missing link" would have never been a hanging point for anyone.

There is no missing link. We have all of them at this point. See this is the part where Fish was talking about education yourself. The links are all there, for millions of years back.

[CLX]

Originally Posted by Dave Lane

There is no missing link. We have all of them at this point. See this is the part where Fish was talking about education yourself. The links are all there, for millions of years back.

You really believe that? Amazing, but only in the sense that I would expect someone that doesn't believe in God to grasp at anything possible to validate the disbelief.

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by CLX

So you don't have a concrete answer? How many monkeys do you know that live in houses on your block? Should I have said apes? Chimpanzees? Spider Monkeys? The end of the story is that man did not evolve from the apes, or from fish. If that were factual the "missing link" would have never been a hanging point for anyone.

This makes no sense. Your premise was that a monkey would evolve into a human if placed in a house. That's stupid because a controlled environment would not force such drastic change over any amount of time. These are the types of completely ludicrous "arguments" people use to discredit evolution because they don't understand it and they can't discredit the observable facts. I am still glad to know you accept evolution though.

Many examples of human evolution have been posted in this thread. I trust you can disprove the facts and evidence?

[listopencil]

Originally Posted by CLX

You don't understand, probably never will. Each time someone shows you their point of view you fall back on the work of others. How much actual study have you done to prove evolution? I see lots of evidence that was sorted out by what I will call non-believers. What have you proven?

Be right back. I have to go invent the wheel, then carve one from stone, because I need to go grocery shopping later today and I'd like to use my car.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by CLX

So you don't have a concrete answer? How many monkeys do you know that live in houses on your block? Should I have said apes? Chimpanzees? Spider Monkeys? The end of the story is that man did not evolve from the apes, or from fish. If that were factual the "missing link" would have never been a hanging point for anyone.

See this is kinda what I'm talking about when I said learn yourself. Somebody long ago put the idea in your head that evolution means monkeys turning into humans. But that's not the case. That's not even the right interpretation of evolution. One species doesn't turn into another existing species. It is possible however, for 2 species, like humans and chimps, to share a common ancestor. We know that apes as well as humans, had an apelike ancestor that both species evolved from. It's actually evident in every cell in the human body.

Humans carry 23 chromosomal pairs, while the other three great ape species all carry 24. If we evolved from a common ancestor, we should find evidence that two of the ape chromosomes fused together to form one of our human chromosomes. That exact evidence is found on human chromosome number 2. We can find there markings from leftover “ends” from the old great ape chromosomes where the two connected. We can also find markings from the leftover centromere (the bend in the middle) from the one chromosome that had to lose the centromere when the two joined together. These are clear-as-day evidence of evolution in action, marked in every cell in our body.

And regarding the "Missing Link", I addressed this above a few posts back. There really isn't one. A missing link is a transitional fossil. And we've found plenty of transitional fossils. Here's the quote, since you missed it:

The lower jaw of reptiles contains several bones, that of mammals only one. The non-mammalian jawbones are reduced, step by step, in mammalian ancestors until they become tiny nubbins located at the back of the jaw. The "hammer" and "anvil" bones of the mammalian ear are descendants of these nubbins. How could such a transition be accomplished? the creationists ask. Surely a bone is either entirely in the jaw or in the ear. Yet paleontologists have discovered two transitional lineages of therapsids (the so-called mammal-like reptiles) with a double jaw joint—one composed of the old quadrate and articular bones (soon to become the hammer and anvil), the other of the squamosal and dentary bones (as in modern mammals). For that matter, what better transitional form could we expect to find than the oldest human, Australopithecus afarensis, with its apelike palate, its human upright stance, and a cranial capacity larger than any ape’s of the same body size but a full 1,000 cubic centimeters below ours? If God made each of the half-dozen human species discovered in ancient rocks, why did he create in an unbroken temporal sequence of progressively more modern features—increasing cranial capacity, reduced face and teeth, larger body size?

[KILLER_CLOWN]

Lots of assuming facts not in evidence but carry on. Millions of years

[listopencil]

Originally Posted by listopencil

Be right back. I have to go invent the wheel, then carve one from stone, because I need to go grocery shopping later today and I'd like to use my car.

Darn it. I was trying to invent a wheel and made a few of these instead:





Oh well. Back to the drawing board.

Shoot. Note to self: Invent the drawing board.

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by listopencil

Darn it. I was trying to invent a wheel and made a few of these instead:





Oh well. Back to the drawing board.

Shoot. Note to self: Invent the drawing board.

[KILLER_CLOWN]

Originally Posted by listopencil

Darn it. I was trying to invent a wheel and made a few of these instead:





Oh well. Back to the drawing board.

Shoot. Note to self: Invent the drawing board.

Fail..none of those would function as wheels.

[listopencil]

Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN

Fail..none of those would function as wheels.

Well, yeah, that's my point. Duh.

[KILLER_CLOWN]

Originally Posted by listopencil

Well, yeah, that's my point. Duh.

You need to make it crystal clear then, I thought you were replacing your vehicles tires with some of those.

[listopencil]

Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN

You need to make it crystal clear then, I thought you were replacing your vehicles tires with some of those.

If you're going to comment on posts, you'd probably make more sense if you read them first. Just a suggestion.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Good ol' Tom.

"I may be wrong, but I KNOW you're just as wrong as I am".

[Dave Lane]

Originally Posted by listopencil

Darn it. I was trying to invent a wheel and made a few of these instead:





Oh well. Back to the drawing board.

Shoot. Note to self: Invent the drawing board.

You forgot to invent the Internet. Call Al Gore... oh wait Alexander Graham Bell oh wait Ben Franklin...

Damn this is hard.