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BREAKING: Federal court rules Oklahoma’s gay marriage ban unconstitutional.

I felt a great disturbance in the force, as if millions of Oklahomans cried out, and were suddenly silenced by a federal court ruling.
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Old 07-18-2014, 01:21 PM   #2
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Old 07-18-2014, 01:23 PM   #3
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BREAKING: Federal court rules Oklahoma’s gay marriage ban unconstitutional.

July 18, 2014 By JT Eberhard

In January a district judge in Oklahoma ruled that Oklahoma’s gay marriage ban ran afoul of the Constitution (with a spectacularly worded ruling). The state appealed, and yet another federal judge (what is this, 19 in a row?) has ruled that the state’s ban on gay marriage is incompatible with a Constitution that calls for equality for all Americans.

The 10th Circuit Court of Appeals this morning just ruled that Oklahoma’s ban on same-sex marriage is unconstitutional. In the 2-1 decision, the Court for the second time ruled that same-sex couples have an equal right to marriage under the U.S. Constitution. As with most federal rulings on marriage, the Court placed a stay on its ruling pending appeal.

This is likely because the state of Utah lost in and earlier 10th District ruling and is appealing to the Supreme Court. The Utah ruling is actually binding to the state of Oklahoma, so the 10th Circuit is going to wait to see what the SCOTUS does here. It all rides on the Utah case. It all hedges on Kennedy, which I’m convinced favors us. To quote Ed Brayton:

The language of [Kennedy's] ruling in Windsor made a strong and explicit case that laws banning same-sex marriage are a violation of equal protection even if you don’t apply strict scrutiny, but he applied it only to the federal government with a federalism safety valve. I think it’s clear that he would like to go all the way on this but wanted to give the states and lower courts time to proceed on repealing and striking them down. So is he ready to do that after less than 2 years? If he is, those laws are gone. If he’s not, he’ll find another way to delay the inevitable.

The Oklahoma ruling adds yet another state to the case that the rest of the country is coming on board with marriage equality. There will likely be even more by the time this gets in front of Kennedy.

It’s starting to look like 1967, not even 50 years ago, when the SCOTUS ruled that laws forbidding interracial marriage were unconstitutional. The arguments for discrimination looked very much the same back then. In 1965, Virginia trial court Judge Leon Bazile, wrote of his decision against allowing interracial marriage:

“Almighty God created the races white, black, yellow, Malay, and red, and placed them on separate continents, and but for the interference with his arrangement there would be no cause for such marriages. The fact that he separated the races shows that he did not intend the races to mix.”

Of course we hear the same thing now, only with regard to LGBT people marrying. Why can’t we allow gay people the same rights as everybody else? Because god, specifically our god (not any of those other gods some people believe in who think gay people are a-ok), forbids it. And no matter what your personal religion, freedom apparently means the freedom to be forced to obey our god by rule of law. Because logic.

Oh, you want to marry a black woman and your god is ok with that? Well our god isn’t, so tough shit. Oh, you want to be able to marry another consenting woman and your god is ok with that? Well our god isn’t, so tough shit. It’s just taken us 50 years to realize that argument still sucks.

In his opinion on Loving v Virginia, Chief Justice Earl Warren wrote:

“Marriage is one of the ‘basic civil rights of man,’ fundamental to our very existence and survival…. To deny this fundamental freedom on so unsupportable a basis as the racial classifications embodied in these statutes, classifications so directly subversive of the principle of equality at the heart of the Fourteenth Amendment, is surely to deprive all the State’s citizens of liberty without due process of law. The Fourteenth Amendment requires that the freedom of choice to marry not be restricted by invidious racial discriminations. Under our Constitution, the freedom to marry, or not to marry, a person of another race resides with the individual and cannot be infringed by the State.”

Substitute sexual orientation for race and I imagine you’ll have more or less what the SCOTUS ruling will look like should the Court grant cert in the Utah case. It should also be noted that when interracial marriage bans were struck down by the SCOTUS 17 Southern states (all the Civil War slave states plus Oklahoma) still had bans on interracial marriage. That’s how it’s looking for gay marriage at present, with even states like Oklahoma, Arkansas, and Texas having their bans overturned (even though they were stayed pending appeal).

History is on the precipice of repeating itself. The stage is set for our generation’s Loving v Virginia almost 50 years later. Personally, I’m excited, even if I’m also a bit sad it took so long for humanity to catch on thanks primarily to the moral wisdom of Christianity. And it’s because of religion that many people, even after the laws can no longer indulge in the discrimination prescribed by their faith, will continue to harbor arbitrary hatred for very good people who refuse to comport themselves with the moral dictates of the ancient and morally confused people who penned the bible.

And they will even continue to call it love.
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Old 07-18-2014, 01:29 PM   #4
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This bears repeating

In his opinion on Loving v Virginia, Chief Justice Earl Warren wrote:

“Marriage is one of the ‘basic civil rights of man,’ fundamental to our very existence and survival…. To deny this fundamental freedom on so unsupportable a basis as the racial classifications embodied in these statutes, classifications so directly subversive of the principle of equality at the heart of the Fourteenth Amendment, is surely to deprive all the State’s citizens of liberty without due process of law. The Fourteenth Amendment requires that the freedom of choice to marry not be restricted by invidious racial discriminations. Under our Constitution, the freedom to marry, or not to marry, a person of another race resides with the individual and cannot be infringed by the State.”
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Old 07-18-2014, 01:36 PM   #5
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Old 07-18-2014, 01:36 PM   #6
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Old 07-18-2014, 01:46 PM   #7
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Actually a cousin of mines son lives in Tulsa and he's gay so yes.
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Old 07-18-2014, 04:27 PM   #15
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So basically, all these states that passed these Amendments the past 10-15 years were all correct in their thinking that gay marriage would be FORCED upon them against their will. They weren't paranoid at all, as the Leftist media claimed, but rather: perfectly lucid and perfectly correct as it turned out.
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