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Old 08-26-2012, 10:56 PM  
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Old 08-27-2012, 09:57 PM   #61
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Old 08-27-2012, 10:00 PM   #62
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It's nice to know everyone is enjoying this thread, laugh it up peeps.
In all fairness, you are arguing a point based on faith and I agree with that, however, some people have a different or no faith. Problem with this is there's no way to prove it.
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Old 08-27-2012, 10:07 PM   #63
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I do find comedy in someone telling me that Earth is only 6000 years old.
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Old 08-27-2012, 10:09 PM   #64
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I haven't watched this whole thing so forgive me if I point out something this guy eventually gets too but why the extremes in his lecture of God and Big Bang? Why can't it be both? He makes a good point on where did matter come from but then he refuses to aknowledge that God and Evolution can be one in the same and coexist just fine.
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Old 08-27-2012, 10:13 PM   #65
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In all fairness, you are arguing a point based on faith and I agree with that, however, some people have a different or no faith. Problem with this is there's no way to prove it.
The problem with most and I do say most, not all, religions is that they seem to refuse that there is a more than obvious symbiotic relationship to us and everything else in the universe.
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Old 08-27-2012, 10:21 PM   #66
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I haven't watched this whole thing so forgive me if I point out something this guy eventually gets too but why the extremes in his lecture of God and Big Bang? Why can't it be both? He makes a good point on where did matter come from but then he refuses to aknowledge that God and Evolution can be one in the same and coexist just fine.
To admit that would be to admit God is fallible. To admit that means everything goes to hell.

If God is the all powerful all knowing creator of the universe then he would have just made us without the need for evolution.
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Old 08-27-2012, 10:24 PM   #67
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To admit that would be to admit God is fallible. To admit that means everything goes to hell.

If God is the all powerful all knowing creator of the universe then he would have just made us without the need for evolution.
That's a gross assumption based on nothing more than jibberish. I woiuld contend that even the Bible proves God is faliable...see Eve in the Garden of Eden.
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Old 08-27-2012, 10:26 PM   #68
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The entire point is Evolution is just as much a religion as Christianity.
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Old 08-27-2012, 10:28 PM   #69
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That's a gross assumption based on nothing more than jibberish. I woiuld contend that even the Bible proves God is faliable...see Eve in the Garden of Eden.
We were created with free will.
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Old 08-27-2012, 10:29 PM   #70
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That's a gross assumption based on nothing more than jibberish. I woiuld contend that even the Bible proves God is faliable...see Eve in the Garden of Eden.
The Bible was written by men. Men are fallible, therefore the Bible is fallible.
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Old 08-27-2012, 10:30 PM   #71
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The entire point is Evolution is just as much a religion as Christianity.
I would disagree with that sentiment. There is proof for evolution.
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Old 08-27-2012, 10:31 PM   #72
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I would disagree with that sentiment. There is proof for evolution.
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Old 08-27-2012, 10:32 PM   #73
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The entire point is Evolution is just as much a religion as Christianity.
That may be an opinion but I don't see it that way at all. Evolution is not a religion to me though there seems to be plenty of science proving the concept of evolution. I just think there is a certain amount of arrogance to most religions and that is a flaw of man in general. If God created Man in his own image and man is not without flaws then what does that say?
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Old 08-27-2012, 10:36 PM   #74
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That may be an opinion but I don't see it that way at all. Evolution is not a religion to me though there seems to be plenty of science proving the concept of evolution. I just think there is a certain amount of arrogance to most religions and that is a flaw of man in general. If God created Man in his own image and man is not without flaws then what does that say?
Evolution certainly requires a leap of faith, the Big bang theory itself being exhibit A. All things are lawful, yet all things are not expedient.
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Evolution certainly requires a leap of faith, the Big bang theory itself being exhibit A. All things are lawful, yet all things are not expedient.
I am not sold 100% on the Big Bang Theory. What I do know is there is evidence of some sort of an explosion. The universe is expanding. Galaxies are moving outwards. These are scientific observations we have made and can measure. To say it all started from a singularity is a theory one can draw but it is still jut a theory. Evolution does not require much of a leap in faith. There is a lot of scientific evidence of evolution. All things are lawful based on what laws? Who indentified\defined these laws?
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