Creation Seminar 1 - Kent Hovind - Age of the Earth

[KILLER_CLOWN]

[KILLER_CLOWN]

It's nice to know everyone is enjoying this thread, laugh it up peeps.

[J Diddy]

Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN

It's nice to know everyone is enjoying this thread, laugh it up peeps.

In all fairness, you are arguing a point based on faith and I agree with that, however, some people have a different or no faith. Problem with this is there's no way to prove it.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN

It's nice to know everyone is enjoying this thread, laugh it up peeps.

I do find comedy in someone telling me that Earth is only 6000 years old.

[petegz28]

I haven't watched this whole thing so forgive me if I point out something this guy eventually gets too but why the extremes in his lecture of God and Big Bang? Why can't it be both? He makes a good point on where did matter come from but then he refuses to aknowledge that God and Evolution can be one in the same and coexist just fine.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by J Diddy

In all fairness, you are arguing a point based on faith and I agree with that, however, some people have a different or no faith. Problem with this is there's no way to prove it.

The problem with most and I do say most, not all, religions is that they seem to refuse that there is a more than obvious symbiotic relationship to us and everything else in the universe.

[J Diddy]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I haven't watched this whole thing so forgive me if I point out something this guy eventually gets too but why the extremes in his lecture of God and Big Bang? Why can't it be both? He makes a good point on where did matter come from but then he refuses to aknowledge that God and Evolution can be one in the same and coexist just fine.

To admit that would be to admit God is fallible. To admit that means everything goes to hell.

If God is the all powerful all knowing creator of the universe then he would have just made us without the need for evolution.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by J Diddy

To admit that would be to admit God is fallible. To admit that means everything goes to hell.

If God is the all powerful all knowing creator of the universe then he would have just made us without the need for evolution.

That's a gross assumption based on nothing more than jibberish. I woiuld contend that even the Bible proves God is faliable...see Eve in the Garden of Eden.

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The entire point is Evolution is just as much a religion as Christianity.

[KILLER_CLOWN]

Originally Posted by petegz28

That's a gross assumption based on nothing more than jibberish. I woiuld contend that even the Bible proves God is faliable...see Eve in the Garden of Eden.

We were created with free will.

[J Diddy]

Originally Posted by petegz28

That's a gross assumption based on nothing more than jibberish. I woiuld contend that even the Bible proves God is faliable...see Eve in the Garden of Eden.

The Bible was written by men. Men are fallible, therefore the Bible is fallible.

[J Diddy]

Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN

The entire point is Evolution is just as much a religion as Christianity.

I would disagree with that sentiment. There is proof for evolution.

[KILLER_CLOWN]

Originally Posted by J Diddy

I would disagree with that sentiment. There is proof for evolution.

Then let Hovind know and collect your 250k reward.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN

The entire point is Evolution is just as much a religion as Christianity.

That may be an opinion but I don't see it that way at all. Evolution is not a religion to me though there seems to be plenty of science proving the concept of evolution. I just think there is a certain amount of arrogance to most religions and that is a flaw of man in general. If God created Man in his own image and man is not without flaws then what does that say?

[KILLER_CLOWN]

Originally Posted by petegz28

That may be an opinion but I don't see it that way at all. Evolution is not a religion to me though there seems to be plenty of science proving the concept of evolution. I just think there is a certain amount of arrogance to most religions and that is a flaw of man in general. If God created Man in his own image and man is not without flaws then what does that say?

Evolution certainly requires a leap of faith, the Big bang theory itself being exhibit A. All things are lawful, yet all things are not expedient.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN

Evolution certainly requires a leap of faith, the Big bang theory itself being exhibit A. All things are lawful, yet all things are not expedient.

I am not sold 100% on the Big Bang Theory. What I do know is there is evidence of some sort of an explosion. The universe is expanding. Galaxies are moving outwards. These are scientific observations we have made and can measure. To say it all started from a singularity is a theory one can draw but it is still jut a theory. Evolution does not require much of a leap in faith. There is a lot of scientific evidence of evolution. All things are lawful based on what laws? Who indentified\defined these laws?