The "Beveridge Curve" predicts unemployment to recover by 2014.

[Direckshun]

I've never heard of the Beveridge Curve before, but here:



You can read about it more here, by Timothy Taylor.

Taylor writes that the Curve offers several insights to the current scenario:

• Job openings are increasing, but the unemployment rate is not.
• There are threey key reasons for this: "a mismatch between the skills of unemployed workers and the available jobs; incentives from extended unemployment insurance that have slowed the incentive to take available jobs; and heightened uncertainty over the future course of the economy and economic policy"
• These three factors have a historical tendency of correcting themselves over time.
• By early 2014, the curve will have righted itself, and unemployment will drop like a rock.

Well, here's hoping.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Iowanian

Here is the thing.

As an American and a person who started a business right before the 2007 crash, I wanted Obama to be spectacular and turn things around. I really did, because it benefits all of us.

Ironically, he's had 4 years of fail, pure and utter fail, like a 12 year old handicap with no wheelchair battery in the hunger games kind of failure.

If he has all of these great, surefire plans to correct the economy, he's doing a huge disservice to this country by not doing those things NOW and using THAT as his re-election campaign instead of more empty words.

Forward. Just give him another four years, and Barack Hussein will move us forward.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by Iowanian

Here is the thing.

As an American and a person who started a business right before the 2007 crash, I wanted Obama to be spectacular and turn things around. I really did, because it benefits all of us.

Ironically, he's had 4 years of fail, pure and utter fail, like a 12 year old handicap with no wheelchair battery in the hunger games kind of failure.

If he has all of these great, surefire plans to correct the economy, he's doing a huge disservice to this country by not doing those things NOW and using THAT as his re-election campaign instead of more empty words.

It's hard to call Obama a total failure in any credible way. If you disagree with his policies, that's fine. But you're going full retard.

The private sector has added as many jobs under the Obama administration as Reagan did in his first term. The United States, under Obama, has recovered from its recession better than any of its European allies. The stimulus package prevented the Great Recession from becoming the Second Great Depression.

Again, you can disagree with his policies, and even argued that he's performed really poorly (though I'd disagree), but if you're going to argue we've had four years of total failure... well, that's on you.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

It's hard to call Obama a total failure in any credible way. If you disagree with his policies, that's fine. But you're going full retard.

The private sector has added as many jobs under the Obama administration as Reagan did in his first term. The United States, under Obama, has recovered from its recession better than any of its European allies. The stimulus package prevented the Great Recession from becoming the Second Great Depression.

Again, you can disagree with his policies, and even argued that he's performed really poorly (though I'd disagree), but if you're going to argue we've had four years of total failure... well, that's on you.

You could have just said, "Forward" and "the private sector is doing fine."

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by Donger

You could have just said, "Forward" and "the private sector is doing fine."

I prefer a bit more detail than campaign slogans and soundbites provide.

[Brock]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

It's hard to call Obama a total failure in any credible way. If you disagree with his policies, that's fine. But you're going full retard.

The private sector has added as many jobs under the Obama administration as Reagan did in his first term. The United States, under Obama, has recovered from its recession better than any of its European allies. The stimulus package prevented the Great Recession from becoming the Second Great Depression.

Again, you can disagree with his policies, and even argued that he's performed really poorly (though I'd disagree), but if you're going to argue we've had four years of total failure... well, that's on you.

Yeah, he's totally kicking ass. That's why he's going to be lucky to beat an empty suit this November.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

I prefer a bit more detail than campaign slogans and soundbites provide.

Oh, I see that you are just parroting Cutter's latest. Nevermind.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by Brock

Yeah, he's totally kicking ass.

Is that what I argued, idiot?

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by Donger

Oh, I see that you are just parroting Cutter's latest. Nevermind.

k

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

k

Sorry.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid..._recovery.html

Willie Geist, MSNBC: What would you say to that same person that said, 'Well, that hasn't worked for four years. I haven't had the job over time, it's time for a change.'

Stephanie Cutter, Obama deputy campaign manager: Well, I think that worker probably has a good understanding of what's happened over the past four years in terms of the president coming in and seeing 800,000 jobs lost on the day that the president was being sworn in, and seeing the president moving pretty quickly to stem the losses, to turn the economy around, and over the past, you know, 27 months we've created 4.5 million private sector jobs. That's more jobs than in the Bush recovery, in the Reagan recovery, there's obviously more we need to do, and as I said to Mika at the at beginning of the program, I think that unemployed worker probably sees one person in this race trying to move the country forward and that's the president.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by Donger

Sorry.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid..._recovery.html

Willie Geist, MSNBC: What would you say to that same person that said, 'Well, that hasn't worked for four years. I haven't had the job over time, it's time for a change.'

Stephanie Cutter, Obama deputy campaign manager: Well, I think that worker probably has a good understanding of what's happened over the past four years in terms of the president coming in and seeing 800,000 jobs lost on the day that the president was being sworn in, and seeing the president moving pretty quickly to stem the losses, to turn the economy around, and over the past, you know, 27 months we've created 4.5 million private sector jobs. That's more jobs than in the Bush recovery, in the Reagan recovery, there's obviously more we need to do, and as I said to Mika at the at beginning of the program, I think that unemployed worker probably sees one person in this race trying to move the country forward and that's the president.

And?

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

And?

I just find it amusing that you just said that you prefer more detail than campaign slogans and soundbites, and then regurgitate what Obama's campaign spokesbabe said yesterday.

[Brock]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Is that what I argued, idiot?

Oh no, you're only listing "preventing a second great depression" as an accomplishment. Dumbshit.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

It's hard to call Obama a total failure in any credible way. If you disagree with his policies, that's fine. But you're going full retard.

The private sector has added as many jobs under the Obama administration as Reagan did in his first term. The United States, under Obama, has recovered from its recession better than any of its European allies. The stimulus package prevented the Great Recession from becoming the Second Great Depression.

Again, you can disagree with his policies, and even argued that he's performed really poorly (though I'd disagree), but if you're going to argue we've had four years of total failure... well, that's on you.

Dude you are plain nuts.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by Donger

I just find it amusing that you just said that you prefer more detail than campaign slogans and soundbites, and then regurgitate what Obama's campaign spokesbabe said yesterday.

Shrug. The Obama administration lists their economic track record at least several times a week. I'm willing to bet there's probably no instance in the past four years where I could have laid a defense down of the administration that they themselves hadn't already laid days before.

That doesn't change my argument, nor undermine it.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by Brock

Oh no, you're only listing "preventing a second great depression" as an accomplishment. Dumbshit.

When the economy is hurtling towards one through no fault of your own, it is an accomplishment.