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Old 07-25-2012, 06:35 PM  
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Somebody's gotta have the inside scoop on Google Fiber launching tomorrow..??

https://fiber.google.com/savethedate/

Live broadcast over YouTube tomorrow. Anybody have any early news on this? Will it be available all over the Metro? How long will the waiting list be?

Anybody know anything? I'm impatient.
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Old 07-27-2012, 08:10 AM   #121
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I seriously doubt the electronics are the expensive part.
I don't think he means the shit that goes inside the house. He is probably talking about the fiber PoP's and switching equipment.
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Old 07-27-2012, 08:18 AM   #122
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How long until someone starts crying "Google is racist!" ?



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I did receive some backlash Thursday for this tweet: “Good #GoogleFiber: more speed. Bad #GoogleFiber: it’s for rich neigborhoods (pls. don’t pretend otherwise).”

That prompted some followers to make these points.
• Early adopters often pay more in technological breakthroughs (says the guy who spent $1,000 on a VCR in 1980).
• Google’s service will still be price competitive - and offer better speeds - than current providers.

Conceded.

However, Google’s own website showing which neighborhoods (I’m sorry, “fiberhoods”) were signing up for the service on Thursday and early Friday showed a predictable pattern:The more educated, middle- to upper-income neighborhoods in southwest KC and in midtown were signing up for first crack at the service.

Meanwhile, the neighborhoods without as many computers and without the income to afford the $70 or $120 proposed monthly charges for Google Fiber were signing up at far slower rates
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Old 07-27-2012, 08:24 AM   #123
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I don't think he means the shit that goes inside the house. He is probably talking about the fiber PoP's and switching equipment.
Yeah, EPON equipment is not cheap. I wonder how they are making up the build cost with the $300 fee for free users. It says for 1 year, then I wonder if you have to pick a service.
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Old 07-27-2012, 08:26 AM   #124
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Old 07-27-2012, 08:35 AM   #125
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Yeah, EPON equipment is not cheap. I wonder how they are making up the build cost with the $300 fee for free users. It says for 1 year, then I wonder if you have to pick a service.
They just show it priced out that way. If you read the fine print it says free service guaranteed for 7 years.
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Old 07-27-2012, 08:48 AM   #126
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They just show it priced out that way. If you read the fine print it says free service guaranteed for 7 years.
I have no idea how they are going to make money off that pricing model. Maybe I should buy stock in motorola if this starts picking up.
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Old 07-27-2012, 09:09 AM   #127
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I have no idea how they are going to make money off that pricing model. Maybe I should buy stock in motorola if this starts picking up.
one thought is that they use their strength in data-mining and track your internet use to hand tailor advertising to you. I mean, they can already track what you "google", now they can follow you everywhere. What you shop online for, where you go for certain items. There is no end.
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Old 07-27-2012, 09:42 AM   #128
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I don't think he means the shit that goes inside the house. He is probably talking about the fiber PoP's and switching equipment.
That was what I was talking about. A single optical concentrator card can run over $125K. The cost of fiber has dropped dramatically. When I first started engineering it, a 6 strand, single mode cable was about $2.45 a foot. The last time I looked, 48 strand was less than a dollar a foot. Multi mode is a little more.
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Old 07-27-2012, 09:56 AM   #129
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I have no idea how they are going to make money off that pricing model. Maybe I should buy stock in motorola if this starts picking up.
They aren't making money on the pricing model. Remember, Google made its fortune on ad revenue.

Once they get a significant market share, they can leverage their position in the market any number of ways.
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Old 07-27-2012, 10:10 AM   #130
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I have no idea how they are going to make money off that pricing model. Maybe I should buy stock in motorola if this starts picking up.
You're taking the narrow view.
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Old 07-27-2012, 10:22 AM   #131
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The free option is brilliant. People aren't going to change providers unless it's significantly cheaper or significantly better, and as much as people complain about TWC, I don't think a $70/month or $120/month option is going to persuade people to make the switch... Google's "free" option is significantly cheaper than TWC in the long run, it lays down the infrastructure to make money in the area in the future. And unlike TWC's old infrastructure in areas like downtown KCMO (where I've heard from several people that TWC absolutely sucks), Google's infrastructure supports much better service.

TWC may not be losing sleep over the $70/month and $120/month options... at least not right now. However, I'm sure they're shitting their pants when thinking about all of their customers who currently pay $20-$30 month for internet.
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Old 07-27-2012, 10:26 AM   #132
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The free option is brilliant. People aren't going to change providers unless it's significantly cheaper or significantly better, and as much as people complain about TWC, I don't think a $70/month or $120/month option is going to persuade people to make the switch... Google's "free" option is significantly cheaper than TWC in the long run, it lays down the infrastructure to make money in the area in the future. And unlike TWC's old infrastructure in areas like downtown KCMO (where I've heard from several people that TWC absolutely sucks), Google's infrastructure supports much better service.

TWC may not be losing sleep over the $70/month and $120/month options... at least not right now. However, I'm sure they're shitting their pants when thinking about all of their customers who currently pay $20-$30 month for internet.
Yeah, it's going to cut the legs out from under the other ISPs in the area. How are they going to compete with free?

Also, you can advertise as "Google Fiber Ready" when you want to sell your house. When you discontinue service with a cable modem or DSL, the ISP reclaims the equipment to resell to the next occupant.
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Old 07-27-2012, 10:29 AM   #133
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The free option is brilliant. People aren't going to change providers unless it's significantly cheaper or significantly better, and as much as people complain about TWC, I don't think a $70/month or $120/month option is going to persuade people to make the switch... Google's "free" option is significantly cheaper than TWC in the long run, it lays down the infrastructure to make money in the area in the future. And unlike TWC's old infrastructure in areas like downtown KCMO (where I've heard from several people that TWC absolutely sucks), Google's infrastructure supports much better service.

TWC may not be losing sleep over the $70/month and $120/month options... at least not right now. However, I'm sure they're shitting their pants when thinking about all of their customers who currently pay $20-$30 month for internet.
$120 for t.v and internet is a pretty good deal.

$70 for internet just isn't going to appeal to the average person

only the heavy internet users are going to go for it. The rich people with more money they they need with get it just for kicks, of course.

$50 would of been a more competitive introductory price imo.

It's not about the speed, it about the price. JMO


the $300/5megs for 7 years is going to be a huge draw though
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Old 07-27-2012, 10:40 AM   #134
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$120 for t.v and internet is a pretty good deal.

$70 for internet just isn't going to appeal to the average person

only the heavy internet users are going to go for it. The rich people with more money they they need with get it just for kicks, of course.

$50 would of been a more competitive introductory price imo.

It's not about the speed, it about the price. JMO


the $300/5megs for 7 years is going to be a huge draw though
???

Have you priced ISPs out recently? The going rate for high speed is anywhere from $30-60 ish for the 2-5mbps or so range. Google Fiber is offering ~120mbps for $70. And you think that's not competitive?
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???

Have you priced ISPs out recently? The going rate for high speed is anywhere from $30-60 ish for the 2-5mbps or so range. Google Fiber is offering ~120mbps for $70. And you think that's not competitive?
He's an idiot.
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