Schefter: Chiefs are high on Ricky Stanzi

[Cassel>Manning]

He said it on the new ESPN Insiders show with Mort, Clayton, and Schefter. Said that Stanzi has caught the eye of the Chiefs and that he could be ahead of Brady Quinn on the depth chart.

BossChief has a better summary....

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

JFC. And here I was thinking your dumbassery was confined to constantly bitching about officiating.

Weren't you just saying 1st round talent means bunk if the player can't stay on the field?

[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

it's not a nailed pick when JIMMY GRAHAM AND AARON HERNANDEZ were still on the board and picked right after him.

Not even close. Just ***** picking one of his boys.

I'm not really in love with hernandez. I think moeaki with Brady would be better. Graham however should have been the pick. I like moeaki though if he can stay healthy.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

JFC. And here I was thinking your dumbassery was confined to constantly bitching about officiating.

What's your point?

Moeaki had broken bones at Iowa, not torn acls or stuff that would effect future injuries.

There was no greater risk of a torn ACL with Moeaki than there was with Charles or Berry.

[mcaj22]

i do like Tony Moeaki and think he's a good player when healthy, but evaluating the pick, and trading up for him, with two TEs currently 10x better than him in the NFL production wise/name wise still on the board, and him being in a very stacked TE heavy draft, there value is very little. In comparison to Justin Houston's value where the only LBer better than him was a guy picked in the top 5.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

So you wouldnt want Jimmy Graham or Aaron Hernandez on the Chiefs right now over Captain Brokedick?

just on durability they are 1000x better than Tony Moeaki who is glued together by glass. The pick was not value at all, it was ***** and his boy Ferentz picking one of their boys. It happens every year when ***** drafts.

So, let's say Justin Houston got busted with weed last year and got suspended a few games.

Would that mean the pick wasn't a good value because the drug risk played out to hurt the team?

I mean, we could have taken Ryan Mallett instead.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Weren't you just saying 1st round talent means bunk if the player can't stay on the field?

Berry had no history of injuries which would keep him sidelined.

Moeaki did.

***** made the common sense choice on Berry as a 1st rounder.

He traded for a constantly broken player with all the makings of helping out a friend in Ferentz and looking like a "genius" if his selection pans out, with the aforementioned players in Graham and Hernandez also available.

[J Diddy]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

So you wouldnt want Jimmy Graham or Aaron Hernandez on the Chiefs right now over Captain Brokedick?

just on durability they are 1000x better than Tony Moeaki who is glued together by glass. The pick was not value at all, it was ***** and his boy Ferentz picking one of their boys. It happens every year when ***** drafts.

So he picked a guy from a coach he was familiar with? His rookie season wasn't a bust, by any mean and he got an acl last year. So what's the deal? You just looking for something to bitch about?

[mcaj22]

Originally Posted by J Diddy

So he picked a guy from a coach he was familiar with? His rookie season wasn't a bust, by any mean and he got an acl last year. So what's the deal? You just looking for something to bitch about?

I'm not bitching, they called the pick a nailed value pick. As it stands right now in terms of production and talent and evaluating the slot he was picked, there is no value because Jimmy Graham and Aaron Hernandez are 100 times better, and picked after him.

It's a good pick, nothing more, nothing less.

it's like saying Dexter McCluster was good value at 36 overall and a nailed pick because he averages 4.4 yards a carry. Now nobody here would buy into that, but it's the same concept.

[J Diddy]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Berry had no history of injuries which would keep him sidelined.

Moeaki did.

***** made the common sense choice on Berry as a 1st rounder.

He traded for a constantly broken player with all the makings of helping out a friend in Ferentz and looking like a "genius" if his selection pans out, with the aforementioned players in Graham and Hernandez also available.

How many Iowa players are in the ****ing nfl? You obviously don't know or wouldn't even pretend that ***** was doing him a favor.

Here's a clue.

Pat Angerer Indianapolis Colts Linebacker
Jonathan Babineaux Atlanta Falcons Defensive Tackle
Christian Ballard Minnesota Vikings Defensive Tackle
Jordan Bernstine Washington Redskins Cornerback
Rob Bruggeman Kansas City Chiefs Center
Bryan Bulaga Green Bay Packers Offensive Tackle
Scott Chandler Buffalo Bills Tight End
Dallas Clark Tampa Bay Buccaneers Tight End
Adrian Clayborn Tampa Bay Buccaneers Defensive End
Sean Considine Baltimore Ravens Safety
Mike Daniels Green Bay Packers Defensive End
Ryan Donahue Detroit Lions Punter
A.J. Edds Indianapolis Colts Linebacker
Bradley Fletcher St. Louis Rams Cornerback
Robert Gallery New England Patriots Offensive Guard
Adam Gettis Washington Redskins Offensive Guard
Charles Godfrey Carolina Panthers Safety
Shonn Greene New York Jets Running Back
Chad Greenway Minnesota Vikings Linebacker
Eric Guthrie Tampa Bay Buccaneers Punter
Brad Herman New England Patriots Tight End
Jeremiha Hunter New Orleans Saints Linebacker
Nate Kaeding San Diego Chargers Place kicker
Mitch King New Orleans Saints Defensive Tackle
Karl Klug Tennessee Titans Defensive Tackle
Matt Kroul New York Jets Defensive Tackle
Bryan Mattison St. Louis Rams Offensive Tackle
Marvin McNutt Philadelphia Eagles Wide Receiver
Tony Moeaki Kansas City Chiefs Tight End
Brandon Myers Oakland Raiders Tight End
Tyler Nielsen Minnesota Vikings Linebacker
Seth Olsen Indianapolis Colts Offensive Guard
Shaun Prater Cincinnati Bengals Cornerback
Riley Reiff Detroit Lions Offensive Tackle
Allen Reisner Minnesota Vikings Tight End
Tyler Sash New York Giants Safety
Amari Spievey Detroit Lions Safety
Ricky Stanzi Kansas City Chiefs Quarterback
Jeff Tarpinian New England Patriots Linebacker
Julian Vandervelde Philadelphia Eagles Offensive Guard
Marshal Yanda Baltimore Ravens Offensive Guard
Markus Zusevics New England Patriots Offensive Tackle

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Berry had no history of injuries which would keep him sidelined.

Moeaki did.

***** made the common sense choice on Berry as a 1st rounder.

He traded for a constantly broken player with all the makings of helping out a friend in Ferentz and looking like a "genius" if his selection pans out, with the aforementioned players in Graham and Hernandez also available.

Put Moeaki on the Pats or Saints and Hernandez or Graham on KC and who knows how things play out.

[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

I'm not bitching, they called the pick a nailed value pick. As it stands right now in terms of production and talent and evaluating the slot he was picked, there is no value because Jimmy Graham and Aaron Hernandez are 100 times better, and picked after him.

It's a good pick, nothing more, nothing less.

it's like saying Dexter McCluster was good value at 36 overall and a nailed pick because he averages 4.4 yards a carry. Now nobody here would buy into that, but it's the same concept.

Is Hernandez 100 times better. I'm not over the moon with that guy. I think out of that TE system or no Brady and I don't see much difference.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

I'm not bitching, they called the pick a nailed value pick. As it stands right now in terms of production and talent and evaluating the slot he was picked, there is no value because Jimmy Graham and Aaron Hernandez are 100 times better, and picked after him.

It's a good pick, nothing more, nothing less.

it's like saying Dexter McCluster was good value at 36 overall and a nailed pick because he averages 4.4 yards a carry. Now nobody here would buy into that, but it's the same concept.

It's a good pick, but it had no value?

JFC

And that last part is gold.

[J Diddy]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

I'm not bitching, they called the pick a nailed value pick. As it stands right now in terms of production and talent and evaluating the slot he was picked, there is no value because Jimmy Graham and Aaron Hernandez are 100 times better, and picked after him.

It's a good pick, nothing more, nothing less.

it's like saying Dexter McCluster was good value at 36 overall and a nailed pick because he averages 4.4 yards a carry. Now nobody here would buy into that, but it's the same concept.

I don't know what he has yet. Nobody does. He had a good rookie year with lots of flash, but tbh the rookie year is not an accurate measure of professional potential.

I'm not saying he's all pro, but if he can improve one his rookie year then I'll be happy

[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by BossChief

It's a good pick, but it had no value?

JFC

And that last part is gold.

Tyson Jackson could be a good player overall but there was zero value in that pick.

[themanwithnoname]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

i do like Tony Moeaki and think he's a good player when healthy, but evaluating the pick, and trading up for him, with two TEs currently 10x better than him in the NFL production wise/name wise still on the board, and him being in a very stacked TE heavy draft, there value is very little. In comparison to Justin Houston's value where the only LBer better than him was a guy picked in the top 5.

Originally Posted by J Diddy

So he picked a guy from a coach he was familiar with? His rookie season wasn't a bust, by any mean and he got an acl last year. So what's the deal? You just looking for something to bitch about?

This. Hey, let's play Captain Hindsight!

If people had known Hernandez and Graham were gonna be that good, then they wouldn't have been drafted that late either.

Damn, too bad we wasted that pick on Jamaal Charles. There were concerns about him being tough enough for the NFL. I mean, we coulda waited a year and drafted Arian Foster in the first, ****, the Chiefs totally ****ed that up. Now we've got that brokedick piece of shit at running back.