Home Mail MemberMap Chat (0) Wallpapers
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > The Royal Lounge > Media Center

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-20-2012, 02:42 AM  
mdchiefsfan mdchiefsfan is offline
MVP
 
mdchiefsfan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Casino cash: $8635
The Dark Knight Rises *Spoilers* Thread

For anyone who has seen the movie and wants to discuss it.
Posts: 5,020
mdchiefsfan 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.mdchiefsfan 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.mdchiefsfan 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.mdchiefsfan 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.mdchiefsfan 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.mdchiefsfan 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.mdchiefsfan 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.mdchiefsfan 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.mdchiefsfan 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.mdchiefsfan 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.mdchiefsfan 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2012, 02:33 PM   #31
Sucky Sucky is offline
Banned
 

Join Date: Aug 2011
Casino cash: $5000
Weakest of the trilogy BUT still good.

I'll definitely see it again in theaters!
Posts: 349
Sucky < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.Sucky < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.Sucky < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.Sucky < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.Sucky < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.Sucky < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.Sucky < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.Sucky < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.Sucky < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.Sucky < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.Sucky < Tried to steal Andy's chili fries.
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2012, 02:42 PM   #32
Reaper16 Reaper16 is offline
Eat/Sleep/Procrastinate/Repeat
 
Reaper16's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Dystopia
Casino cash: $7142
Quote:
Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan View Post
I wouldn't say losing fear of death. I would say regaining his fear of death. The League of Shadows groomed him to be the perfect mercenary, to be without fear which, in turn, made him Batman. To return to humanity, as Bruce Wayne, he needed that fear re-established.
Oh. But...that doesn't jibe with the scene that I saw last night. Unless I misheard some key bit of dialogue. Because it seems like you'd wear that rope because you were afraid of dying (from a slip of the foot or from not making that leap. Because you, in that prison, will have seen many people try and fail, and so you'll want a safety precaution).

Bruce even says in the prison how he's afraid of x, y, and z. That was before he learned the stuff that allowed him to get out of the pit.
__________________

Quote:
Originally Posted by Delano View Post
Reaper16's taste in beer, music, and literature are unmatched on this message board.
Posted via Mobile Device
Posts: 32,647
Reaper16 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Reaper16 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Reaper16 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Reaper16 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Reaper16 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Reaper16 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Reaper16 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Reaper16 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Reaper16 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Reaper16 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Reaper16 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2012, 03:13 PM   #33
mdchiefsfan mdchiefsfan is offline
MVP
 
mdchiefsfan's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2009
Casino cash: $8635
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reaper16 View Post
Oh. But...that doesn't jibe with the scene that I saw last night. Unless I misheard some key bit of dialogue. Because it seems like you'd wear that rope because you were afraid of dying (from a slip of the foot or from not making that leap. Because you, in that prison, will have seen many people try and fail, and so you'll want a safety precaution).

Bruce even says in the prison how he's afraid of x, y, and z. That was before he learned the stuff that allowed him to get out of the pit.
One of us misheard. But the way I see it is if you are afraid of death and you attempt to climb that high of a wall, your going to give your max to ensure you don't die. The rope hindered his ability to climb because he knew that if he fell, he would be fine. Fearing death and climbing without the rope worked together to achieve his goal.
Posts: 5,020
mdchiefsfan 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.mdchiefsfan 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.mdchiefsfan 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.mdchiefsfan 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.mdchiefsfan 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.mdchiefsfan 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.mdchiefsfan 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.mdchiefsfan 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.mdchiefsfan 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.mdchiefsfan 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.mdchiefsfan 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2012, 04:04 PM   #34
Wyatt Earp Wyatt Earp is offline
Starter
 
Wyatt Earp's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Dodge City, Kansas
Casino cash: $6475
Did anyone else feel like the "court room" scenes were tailor made for the Joker?
__________________
Posts: 354
Wyatt Earp would the whole thing.Wyatt Earp would the whole thing.Wyatt Earp would the whole thing.Wyatt Earp would the whole thing.Wyatt Earp would the whole thing.Wyatt Earp would the whole thing.Wyatt Earp would the whole thing.Wyatt Earp would the whole thing.Wyatt Earp would the whole thing.Wyatt Earp would the whole thing.Wyatt Earp would the whole thing.
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2012, 04:07 PM   #35
mdchiefsfan mdchiefsfan is offline
MVP
 
mdchiefsfan's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2009
Casino cash: $8635
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wyatt Earp View Post
Did anyone else feel like the "court room" scenes were tailor made for the Joker?
Holy shit. Didn't think if that
Posts: 5,020
mdchiefsfan 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.mdchiefsfan 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.mdchiefsfan 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.mdchiefsfan 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.mdchiefsfan 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.mdchiefsfan 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.mdchiefsfan 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.mdchiefsfan 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.mdchiefsfan 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.mdchiefsfan 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.mdchiefsfan 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2012, 04:18 PM   #36
Wyatt Earp Wyatt Earp is offline
Starter
 
Wyatt Earp's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Dodge City, Kansas
Casino cash: $6475
Quote:
Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan View Post
Holy shit. Didn't think if that
Yeah to me Dr. Crane felt out of place as the judge.
__________________
Posts: 354
Wyatt Earp would the whole thing.Wyatt Earp would the whole thing.Wyatt Earp would the whole thing.Wyatt Earp would the whole thing.Wyatt Earp would the whole thing.Wyatt Earp would the whole thing.Wyatt Earp would the whole thing.Wyatt Earp would the whole thing.Wyatt Earp would the whole thing.Wyatt Earp would the whole thing.Wyatt Earp would the whole thing.
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2012, 04:34 PM   #37
Tribal Warfare Tribal Warfare is offline
The Boom Boom Room
 
Tribal Warfare's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Far Beyond Comprehension
Casino cash: $8170
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wyatt Earp View Post
Did anyone else feel like the "court room" scenes were tailor made for the Joker?
yep
__________________
Posts: 28,598
Tribal Warfare is too fat/Omaha.Tribal Warfare is too fat/Omaha.Tribal Warfare is too fat/Omaha.Tribal Warfare is too fat/Omaha.Tribal Warfare is too fat/Omaha.Tribal Warfare is too fat/Omaha.Tribal Warfare is too fat/Omaha.Tribal Warfare is too fat/Omaha.Tribal Warfare is too fat/Omaha.Tribal Warfare is too fat/Omaha.Tribal Warfare is too fat/Omaha.
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2012, 04:45 PM   #38
mdchiefsfan mdchiefsfan is offline
MVP
 
mdchiefsfan's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2009
Casino cash: $8635
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wyatt Earp View Post
Yeah to me Dr. Crane felt out of place as the judge.
It kinda worked, as I was used to seeing him in court, but now that you mention it, it would be better suited with joker up there.
Posts: 5,020
mdchiefsfan 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.mdchiefsfan 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.mdchiefsfan 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.mdchiefsfan 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.mdchiefsfan 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.mdchiefsfan 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.mdchiefsfan 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.mdchiefsfan 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.mdchiefsfan 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.mdchiefsfan 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.mdchiefsfan 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2012, 05:57 PM   #39
Deberg_1990 Deberg_1990 is offline
MVP
 
Deberg_1990's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: San Antonio Tx.
Casino cash: $11695
Quote:
Originally Posted by DBOSHO View Post
I cant decide whether i thought banes voice was comical or creepy, but it did have a sort of jolliness in it that was unnerving. I know i couldnt understand a 3rd of what he said.

Tom hardy is big as ****.
heh, honestly Banes voice might be my only complaint about this flick. It was too over-amplified, obviously created Post filming and not on set. Too fakey sounding. Then he had a few corny lines i didnt like...

"Oh what a nice voice" At the football game.



But loved the movie otherwise. Just brilliant stuff. Nolan is on a whole other level with these films. No other comic book film comes close IMO.
__________________
Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning:

Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down.

One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
Posts: 50,357
Deberg_1990 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Deberg_1990 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Deberg_1990 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Deberg_1990 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Deberg_1990 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Deberg_1990 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Deberg_1990 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Deberg_1990 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Deberg_1990 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Deberg_1990 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Deberg_1990 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2012, 06:01 PM   #40
Deberg_1990 Deberg_1990 is offline
MVP
 
Deberg_1990's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: San Antonio Tx.
Casino cash: $11695
BTW, anyone catch the "Man of Steel" trailer? It was ok, but i was disappointed because it wasnt the longer one shown at Comic Con. It really didnt reveal much.
__________________
Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning:

Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down.

One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
Posts: 50,357
Deberg_1990 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Deberg_1990 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Deberg_1990 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Deberg_1990 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Deberg_1990 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Deberg_1990 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Deberg_1990 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Deberg_1990 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Deberg_1990 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Deberg_1990 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Deberg_1990 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2012, 06:52 PM   #41
Silock Silock is offline
MVP
 
Silock's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Overland Park
Casino cash: $8335
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 View Post
heh, honestly Banes voice might be my only complaint about this flick. It was too over-amplified, obviously created Post filming and not on set. Too fakey sounding. Then he had a few corny lines i didnt like...

"Oh what a nice voice" At the football game.



But loved the movie otherwise. Just brilliant stuff. Nolan is on a whole other level with these films. No other comic book film comes close IMO.
They redid it because people were having a hard time understanding him and hearing the lines. It was originally far more muffled.
Posts: 17,438
Silock is too fat/Omaha.Silock is too fat/Omaha.Silock is too fat/Omaha.Silock is too fat/Omaha.Silock is too fat/Omaha.Silock is too fat/Omaha.Silock is too fat/Omaha.Silock is too fat/Omaha.Silock is too fat/Omaha.Silock is too fat/Omaha.Silock is too fat/Omaha.
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2012, 07:05 PM   #42
Tribal Warfare Tribal Warfare is offline
The Boom Boom Room
 
Tribal Warfare's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Far Beyond Comprehension
Casino cash: $8170
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 View Post
BTW, anyone catch the "Man of Steel" trailer? It was ok, but i was disappointed because it wasnt the longer one shown at Comic Con. It really didnt reveal much.
It showed Cavil walking with a scruffy beard, with a Russell Crowe voiceover... Then Supes breaking the speed of sound through the clouds.
__________________
Posts: 28,598
Tribal Warfare is too fat/Omaha.Tribal Warfare is too fat/Omaha.Tribal Warfare is too fat/Omaha.Tribal Warfare is too fat/Omaha.Tribal Warfare is too fat/Omaha.Tribal Warfare is too fat/Omaha.Tribal Warfare is too fat/Omaha.Tribal Warfare is too fat/Omaha.Tribal Warfare is too fat/Omaha.Tribal Warfare is too fat/Omaha.Tribal Warfare is too fat/Omaha.
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2012, 07:12 PM   #43
mdchiefsfan mdchiefsfan is offline
MVP
 
mdchiefsfan's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2009
Casino cash: $8635
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 View Post
BTW, anyone catch the "Man of Steel" trailer? It was ok, but i was disappointed because it wasnt the longer one shown at Comic Con. It really didnt reveal much.
I didn't realize Christopher Nolan was doing the Man of Steel. Can't wait for this one.
Posts: 5,020
mdchiefsfan 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.mdchiefsfan 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.mdchiefsfan 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.mdchiefsfan 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.mdchiefsfan 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.mdchiefsfan 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.mdchiefsfan 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.mdchiefsfan 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.mdchiefsfan 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.mdchiefsfan 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.mdchiefsfan 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2012, 07:25 PM   #44
Reaper16 Reaper16 is offline
Eat/Sleep/Procrastinate/Repeat
 
Reaper16's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Dystopia
Casino cash: $7142
Quote:
Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan View Post
I didn't realize Christopher Nolan was doing the Man of Steel. Can't wait for this one.
He's only producing it. Zack Snyder is directing.
__________________

Quote:
Originally Posted by Delano View Post
Reaper16's taste in beer, music, and literature are unmatched on this message board.
Posted via Mobile Device
Posts: 32,647
Reaper16 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Reaper16 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Reaper16 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Reaper16 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Reaper16 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Reaper16 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Reaper16 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Reaper16 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Reaper16 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Reaper16 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.Reaper16 has an IQ even higher than Frankie's.
  Reply With Quote
Old 07-20-2012, 08:06 PM   #45
Red Brooklyn Red Brooklyn is offline
Veteran
 
Red Brooklyn's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Casino cash: $6217
Quote:
Originally Posted by Reaper16 View Post
My biggest beef with the film re: thing-being-included-only-to-set-up-twists is the whole pit prison deal. It seemed to be doing 2 things: 1.) show how tough Bane was because he alone escaped, and 2.) teach Bruce that if he no longer fears death then he can save Gotham from Bane (which would reinforce the sacrificing-himself-by-flying-the-nuke-out-to-sea bit, which was somewhat undone by the cop-out reveal that he somehow lived and he and Selina got clean slates and moved to Italy.

But the twist that it was Talia that escaped, not Bane, does harm to the film, IMO. Because...why was Bane tough then? Or smart? Bane couldn't figure out -- like I'm sure many of us did very quickly into the prison scenes -- that the rope was the only thing preventing you from escaping. He didn't escape through some sheer force of will. He was rescued, in fact (albeit after contracting whatever painful plague thing he got).

So Bane goes down like the chump that he was (accidentally) revealed to be as soon as Bruce next encounters him. Bruce doesn't learn any secret to beating Bane, because that lesson about fear-of-death doesn't end up applying to anything.

It all was working for me as the film went along...until the needless twist.
I think one big thing to consider here is that Bruce wasn't learning how to conquer his fear of death. He'd already done that.

He was learning how important fear is. The issue is he needed the fear back. I think that plays pretty heavily into his escape. Perhaps not so heavily into defeating Bane, I'll grant you. But I don't think it was entirely pointless or inconsequential.

The movie, to me, seemed to be like Batman Begins in reverse. The whole second half was more about Bruce vs himself than Batman vs Bane. Not arguing that as a strength or a weakness, just making an observation.

I'm fine with Bane being muscle and less brains. And in the end Batman still wasn't going to be able to defeat Bane on his own. But, again, I'm not sure that's what it was about.

And the Breaking Bad crack was just that. It was a crack. Me making fun of myself more than anything. Your comment sounded similar to some of mine re: that show. And I don't think it's worlds apart, frankly. We've seen characters on BB acting completely out of character for the sake of plot, and sometimes, even plot "twists."
Posts: 3,449
Red Brooklyn 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliRed Brooklyn 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliRed Brooklyn 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliRed Brooklyn 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliRed Brooklyn 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliRed Brooklyn 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliRed Brooklyn 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliRed Brooklyn 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliRed Brooklyn 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliRed Brooklyn 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliRed Brooklyn 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitelli
  Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:50 AM.


This is a test for a client's site.
A new website that shows member-created construction site listings that need fill or have excess fill. Dirt Monkey @ https://DirtMonkey.net
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.