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Old 07-02-2012, 07:14 PM  
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Iranian Bombers captured

The peace loving Iranians show who they are again. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-in-Kenya.html

Two Iranian agents arrested with explosives planned to attack US, British, Israeli or Saudi Arabian targets in Kenya, officials have claimed.

8:19PM BST 02 Jul 2012
Officials told the Associated Press news agency that the plot appears to fit into a global pattern of attacks or attempted attacks by Iranian agents, mostly against Israeli interests.
Ahmad Abolfathi Mohammad and Sayed Mansour Mousavi were arrested last week with 33 pounds of RDX, a powerful explosive, in the coastal city of Mombasa. Several hotels on the coast are Israeli-owned.

One official said the Iranians are members of Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps Quds Force, an elite and secretive unit.

Mohammad last week said the two were interrogated by Israeli agents, a claim that, if true, would suggest security officials believe the Iranians might have been targeting an Israeli-owned property. Iranian agents are suspected in several attacks or thwarted attacks around the globe over the last year, including in Azerbaijan, Thailand and India. Most of the plots had connections to Israeli targets.

Several resorts on Kenya's coast are Israeli-owned. Militants in 2002 bombed an Israeli-owned luxury hotel near Mombasa, killing 13 people. The militants also tried to shoot down an Israeli airliner at the same time. An al-Qaeda operative was linked to those attacks.

Five Iranian scientists with links to Tehran's nuclear program have been killed in the last two years, and Iran has blamed Israel - as well as U.S. and British intelligence agencies - for the attacks. In return, Israel blames Iran for alleged reprisal missions on Israeli property and personnel overseas.

Iran has denied any links to attacks outside its borders.
Representatives at the US Embassy, the British High Commission and the Israeli Embassy declined to comment on the latest arrests. Kenya's government spokesman did not answer phone calls or text messages seeking comment.

Investigators believe that if the Iranian plot had been successful, suspicion would have naturally fallen not on Iran but instead on the al-Qaeda-linked Somali militant group al-Shabab. Al-Shabab has threatened to bring Nairobi's skyscrapers to the ground following Kenya's military push into Somalia last year.

Militants - most likely from Somalia - have pulled off small-scale attacks in Kenya in the last year, including kidnappings, grenade attacks and a bombing in downtown Nairobi that peeled back the roof of a building.
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Old 07-03-2012, 03:03 PM   #16
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She has been an Iranian apologist for quite some time.
I am not an Iranian apologist. You're framing it that way alter my position to worsen it. It's editorializing.

It is a fact that any action creates a reaction. This is how people behave. It is a fact that we've been in Iran committing acts of terrorism through proxies which are acts of war since 2003. I provided specifics many times before. It is a fact that the CIA is inside Syria arming rebels covertly. Syria is a satellite or ally of Iran. What do you expect? It is a fact that the same was done in Libya which supplied arms to AQ members.

My position is one of non-interventionism. The same as Ron Paul's and the Old Right. It's the humble foreign policy that Bush II promoted and won on. It is the FP that Reagan recommended for the ME where monitoring the area from our ships worked well enough until we put our men on the ground which resulted in the Marine barracks being bombed. Reagaon learned what it leads to. Why can't you or today's right? My position as the same as former CIA counterrorism expert and head of binLaden unit takes. He's no Iranian apologist either. It's not working and they will continue to try to kill us. He's says we're losing the WoT.

I don't read AC's angry tourette's syndrome posts because it's irrational. Anyone here, should know my stand on interventionism creating more problems for us and that how the WoT is being conducted is making terrorism worse as it serves as a recruiting ground.

You guys keep recommending the same thing despite the same results. That's insanity.
Continue being blind. But you're all statists to the core on FP.
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Old 07-03-2012, 03:31 PM   #17
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The Iranian regime supports Hezbollah for sure, but Iranian agents?
Good Lord. Are you and BEP having some kind of contest here?
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Old 07-03-2012, 03:40 PM   #18
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All jokes aside, we don't have all the facts. There has never been any "terrorism" involving Iranian agents. So this could easily be a political set up. But if they actually are members of the Quds it might change that notion.
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Old 07-03-2012, 03:40 PM   #19
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The Iranian regime supports Hezbollah for sure, but Iranian agents?
Hezbollah are Iranian agents, Frankie. Do you know the difference between agents and officers (as it pertains to spooks)?
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Old 07-03-2012, 04:13 PM   #20
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Hezbollah are Iranian agents, Frankie. Do you know the difference between agents and officers (as it pertains to spooks)?
Can you post any terrorist acts for which an Iranian citizen has been captured, killed, or identified?
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Old 07-03-2012, 04:14 PM   #21
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Good Lord. Are you and BEP having some kind of contest here?
Yeah. A contest of reason. You guys should try it sometime.
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Old 07-03-2012, 04:15 PM   #22
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Can you post any terrorist acts for which an Iranian citizen has been captured, killed, or identified?
Did you read the OP? Are you familiar with the Iranian hostage crisis?
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Can you post any terrorist acts for which an Iranian citizen has been captured, killed, or identified?
Yes. I believe that two Iranians were involved in the plot to assassinate the Saudi ambassador to the US. I think that one is in custody and has been charged, while the other escaped.

So, do you now know the difference between an agent and an officer?
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Old 07-03-2012, 04:19 PM   #25
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Can you post any terrorist acts for which an Iranian citizen has been captured, killed, or identified?
It's kind of old, but here's one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_hostage_crisis
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Old 07-03-2012, 04:22 PM   #26
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There is good news on the IslamoNut front though.

Frogs are safe under a decree by one of the HolyMoonbats. You cannot kill a frog. But, if you need some excitement you can buy the kids a nice exploding vest and a detonator.

http://www.raymondibrahim.com/2012/0...sanct-croaking

Following the presidential victory of the Muslim Brotherhood’s Muhammad Morsi, the very first fatwa to appear by Egypt’s highest fatwa council addresses—not social, political, or economic issues in Egypt—but rather frogs. Specifically, it bans Muslims from hunting and killing frogs to sell to those nations that dine on the amphibians. As the fatwa explains, according to Islam’s prophet Muhammad as recorded in a hadith, a frog’s “croaking is praise [to Allah].” Accordingly, “a number of jurists [fuqaha] have relied on this [hadith] to forbid the eating of frogs, under the notion that ‘that which is banned from being killed, is forbidden from being eaten.’”

I hope as a long term solution, we're planting people into the imam training system so they can eventually come out with decrees like, "The American flag represents the red blood of allah, the white shroud of sharia, and the blue sky of Jerusalem, so therefore Americans shall never be attacked". It'll take a while to implement this solution, but it seems pretty foolproof.
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Old 07-03-2012, 04:24 PM   #27
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It's kind of old, but here's one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_hostage_crisis
Yeah it is old, by 30 years and it ain't exactly terrorism either when you capture suspected American CIA agents or some similar connection. We're just never told the whole story. Our CIA was working with their CIA torturing their dissidents who didn't like us overthrowing an elected and popular leader in a coup for the sake of British petroleum. There were claims Iran was aligning with the Soviet's to justify it.You need to go back earlier like to the 1950's to get the beginning of that entire incident.
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Did you read the OP? Are you familiar with the Iranian hostage crisis?
Weren't some "Iranians" captured in Texas or some place for terrorism last year? Whatever became of that?
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Yeah it is old, by 30 years and it ain't exactly terrorism either when you capture suspected American CIA agents or some similar connection. We're just never told the whole story. Our CIA was working with their CIA torturing their dissidents who didn't like us overthrowing an elected and popular leader in a coup for the sake of British petroleum. There were claims Iran was aligning with the Soviet's to justify it.You need to go back earlier like to the 1950's to get the beginning of that entire incident.
Sooo...what would you call this, then, if it's not terrorism? Is it just "assertive diplomacy"?
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