Obama makes election-year change in deportation policy

[petegz28]

The Obama administration announced Friday it will stop deporting illegal immigrants who come to the country at a young age.

The politically charged decision comes as Obama faces a tough reelection fight against Republican Mitt Romney, and Hispanic voters in swing states will play a crucial role in the contest.

The change in policy could allow as many as 800,000 immigrants who came to the United States illegally not only to remain in the country without fear of being deported, but to work legally, according to a senior administration official speaking to reporters Friday.

In a Rose Garden statement, President Obama said the measure would “lift the shadow of deportation” from immigrants, some of who have made “extraordinary contributions” by “serving in our military and protecting our freedom.”

“That we would treat them as expendable makes no sense,” Obama said.

“They study in our schools, play in our neighborhoods ... they pledge allegiance to our flag, they are Americans in their hearts and minds ... and in every single way but one: on paper."

Obama was briefly interrupted by a reporter during his statement, a rare breach of protocol that caused the president to lose his temper.

"Excuse me sir, it's not time for questions, sir, not while I'm speaking," Obama said.

Later in his statement, Obama, pointing his finger at the reporter in front of the live TV cameras, said: "And the answer to your question, sir — and the next time I prefer you to let me finish by statements before you ask a question — is this is the right thing to do for the American people. I didn't ask for an argument, I'm answering your question."

The new policy will not grant citizenship to children who came to the United States as illegal immigrants, but will remove the threat of deportation and grant them the right to work in the United States.

According to the Department of Homeland Security, the policy change will apply to those who came to the United States before they were 16 and who are younger than 30 if they have lived here for five years, have no criminal history, graduated from a U.S. high school or served in the military.

A memo from DHS Secretary Janet Napolitano ordering the "prosecutorial discretion with respect to individuals who came to the United States as children" argued that those covered by the order "only know this country as home." It said these people "lacked the intent to violate the law."

The new policy will apply to individuals who are already in deportation proceedings, the memo said.

The policy change will accomplish portions of the Development, Relief, and Education for Alien Minors (DREAM) Act, legislation that has stalled in Congress amid Republican opposition.

http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...gration-policy

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by cosmo20002

I had highlighted the worst part: "I've decided to grant amnesty to young illegals"

Neg repped for stupidity either genuine or feigned.

[cosmo20002]

Originally Posted by mlyonsd

WTF would you call it?

I'd call it not amnesty because it does not meet the definition of the word.

[cosmo20002]

Originally Posted by vailpass

Neg repped for stupidity either genuine or feigned.

Now that's gonna sting. You apparently don't know the definition of common words. Is that genuine or feigned?

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by cosmo20002

Now that's gonna sting. You apparently don't know the definition of common words. Is that genuine or feigned?

The meaning of the word "amnesty" in that statement was contextually crystal clear.
You either knew what was meant but chose to act otherwise in your blind defense of obama or you did not know what it meant despite the clarity of the statement.
Both routes leave you at stupid.

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by cosmo20002

I'd call it not amnesty because it does not meet the definition of the word.

Would you call it breaking the law(against "We The People) and shitting all over the Constitution under the guise of "Executive order" all for political purposes because their internal polls (that we don't see) show that even "O" is starting to lose some of the Lation vote, when a year earlier he said he couldn't do anything? Sorry for the run on question.

[cosmo20002]

Originally Posted by vailpass

The meaning of the word "amnesty" in that statement was contextually crystal clear.
You either knew what was meant but chose to act otherwise in your blind defense of obama or you did not know what it meant despite the clarity of the statement.
Both routes leave you at stupid.

Yeah, I know what was meant--that amnesty has been granted. If that's not what was meant, the word "amnesty" shouldn't have been used. No one was given amnesty, so if someone misuses the word, that is their problem.

So, is your current moron act genuine or feigned?

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by cosmo20002

I had highlighted the worst part: "I've decided to grant amnesty to young illegals"

Originally Posted by cosmo20002

I'd call it not amnesty because it does not meet the definition of the word.

Sure it does. Maybe you should look the word up.

[cosmo20002]

Originally Posted by sportsshrink

Would you call it breaking the law(against "We The People) and shitting all over the Constitution under the guise of "Executive order" all for political purposes because their internal polls (that we don't see) show that even "O" is starting to lose some of the Lation vote, when a year earlier he said he couldn't do anything? Sorry for the run on question.

Did this even actually involve an Executive Order?

Anyway, there's nothing unconstitutional whatsoever. Its well within the discretion of the DHS.

[cosmo20002]

Originally Posted by patteeu

Sure it does. Maybe you should look the word up.

I did, just to be sure. Not anmesty. Clearly not.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by cosmo20002

I did, just to be sure. Not anmesty. Clearly not.

You must be using an abridged dictionary. Or maybe someone tore a page out of it. Try dictionary.com.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by cosmo20002

Yeah, I know what was meant--that amnesty has been granted. If that's not what was meant, the word "amnesty" shouldn't have been used. No one was given amnesty, so if someone misuses the word, that is their problem.

So, is your current moron act genuine or feigned?

Not only are you incorrect you are willfully obtuse. Are you an asshole because most people dislike you, or do most people dislike you because you are an asshole?

[cosmo20002]

Originally Posted by patteeu

You must be using an abridged dictionary. Or maybe someone tore a page out of it. Try dictionary.com.

I'm not sure that dictionary.com is exactly the standard, but no, still not amnesty.

[cosmo20002]

Originally Posted by vailpass

Not only are you incorrect you are willfully obtuse. Are you an asshole because most people dislike you, or do most people dislike you because you are an asshole?

I know what the word amnesy means, and the DHS decision ain't that.

Surely you know how your other comments must sting. You're a hateful closeted bigot who might be semi-retarded. I'm not completely sure on the last part because I'm keeping open the possibility you are about 11 years old.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by cosmo20002

I know what the word amnesy means, and the DHS decision ain't that.

Surely you know how your other comments must sting. You're a hateful closeted bigot who might be semi-retarded. I'm not completely sure on the last part because I'm keeping open the possibility you are about 11 years old.

Coming from the most blatant bigot this board has seen in a while I'll take that as it an "it takes one to know one" nod.
Of course, my bigot team whips the shit out of your bigot team every time, amirite?

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by cosmo20002

I'm not sure that dictionary.com is exactly the standard, but no, still not amnesty.

You're incorrect. Perhaps the problem is you and not your dictionary. The fact that the President's policy is one of overlooking a past offense (being in the country illegally) and making these guys legal makes it amnesty by definition.