Peter Boyles - Diana West and Obama's eligibility and newspaper birth announcement

[Chiefshrink]

http://www.khow.com/player/?station=...l&mid=22171081

[cosmo20002]

Originally Posted by ClevelandBronco

Sounds like good evidence and no proof at all.

That's pretty much my point. The nutjob birthers give their "evidence" without any proof they are doing legitimate investigations.

[cosmo20002]

Originally Posted by The_Grand_Illusion

You fail to understand the State of Hawaii has their own problems with the foreign-born loop hole birth certificates they have issued in the past.

Such as? Show me something on it. But don't bother if it is going to be from some hyper-partisan source.

Originally Posted by The_Grand_Illusion

Do you even think they might be trying to protect themselves with how legally worded their statements have been?

Protect themselves from what? "We do not have a birth certificate with the name Barrack Obama." Done.

Originally Posted by The_Grand_Illusion

Obama’s Selective Service card is without a doubt, a fake just like the rest of his narrative as it’s starting to play out.

THAT card, purported to be a copy of Obama's Selective Service card, may well be a fake. I don't know where the hell that copy came from. Or, examining a copy of something just may not be a legitimate way of determining if the original is fake. You people are kooks.

[The_Grand_Illusion]

Originally Posted by cosmo20002

Such as? Show me something on it. But don't bother if it is going to be from some hyper-partisan source.


Protect themselves from what? "We do not have a birth certificate with the name Barrack Obama." Done.



THAT card, purported to be a copy of Obama's Selective Service card, may well be a fake. I don't know where the hell that copy came from. Or, examining a copy of something just may not be a legitimate way of determining if the original is fake. You people are kooks.

You obviously have your head in the sand but that does not surprise me. You did not watch the video on the Selective Service card and how they determined it to be fake. It's very obvious and remember, this is a law enforcement agency conducting this investigation, not some rogue group.

Here is a shorter version of their investigation of the Selective Service card. It looks really bad if you dare:

[Fish]

Originally Posted by The_Grand_Illusion

You fail to understand the State of Hawaii has their own problems with the foreign-born loop hole birth certificates they have issued in the past. Do you even think they might be trying to protect themselves with how legally worded their statements have been?

If you have watched Sheriff Joe’s law enforcement investigation, you would understand your left’s birth narrative is starting to crack and fall apart. This is the vetting that should have happened long ago but was met with anyone looking in to Obama’s past was called names, downplayed, or the worst, anyone critical of him was called a racist. That is not going to work this time and he will be properly vetted. You libs won’t like that but if it had been done before, WE WOULD NOT BE IN THIS MESS WE ARE IN! You don’t realize just how corrupt your culture has become, including the participating media that shoveled much of this under the rug and continue to do so.

I dare you to watch this video. Obama’s Selective Service card is without a doubt, a fake just like the rest of his narrative as it’s starting to play out.

You liberals are going to have to grow up and realize, there is no Obama Claus.

TGI

The Republicans will get him this time! Yes...yes......

[cosmo20002]

Originally Posted by The_Grand_Illusion

You obviously have your head in the sand but that does not surprise me. You did not watch the video on the Selective Service card and how they determined it to be fake. It's very obvious and remember, this is a law enforcement agency conducting this investigation, not some rogue group.

Here is a shorter version of their investigation of the Selective Service card. It looks really bad if you dare:

The shorter version is 47 minutes. Thanks.
I did actually skim through it as I wanted to see what they examined, and as I said, they examined a COPY. A copy of completely unknown source. It was compared to other copies. And were told, "This is the stamp used in 1980, it is absolutely the only one used, every stamp used during that entire year was exactly the same, period." OK, if you say so.

[mikey23545]

Look, it's time to stop all this birther crap.

His birth certificate is just as legitimate as his college transcripts.

[cosmo20002]

Originally Posted by mikey23545

Look, it's time to stop all this birther crap.

His birth certificate is just as legitimate as his college transcripts.

And just as legitimate as yours.

[The_Grand_Illusion]

Originally Posted by cosmo20002

The shorter version is 47 minutes. Thanks.
I did actually skim through it as I wanted to see what they examined, and as I said, they examined a COPY. A copy of completely unknown source. It was compared to other copies. And were told, "This is the stamp used in 1980, it is absolutely the only one used, every stamp used during that entire year was exactly the same, period." OK, if you say so.

This is a law enforcement agency. You don't think they don't have access to what was officially put out? Are you sure you aren't here just to obfuscate anything Obama? You must have not really watched it. The postal year date stamp is supposed to have 4 digits, this is mandated by the DOD if you watched it. Obama's is the only one they could find that had 2 digits in the year stamp. They even had postal date stamps from other Selective Service cards around the same date and all had 4 digits. He was able to replicate exactly how they did Obama's year stamp by cutting the 08 out of a 2008 stamp and invert it to just show 80 with and upsidedown 8. It's pretty damning on it being an obvious fake.

[cosmo20002]

Originally Posted by The_Grand_Illusion

This is a law enforcement agency. You don't think they don't have access to what was officially put out? Are you sure you aren't here just to obfuscate anything Obama? You must have not really watched it. The postal year date stamp is supposed to have 4 digits, this is mandated by the DOD if you watched it. Obama's is the only one they could find that had 2 digits in the year stamp. They even had postal date stamps from other Selective Service cards around the same date and all had 4 digits. He was able to replicate exactly how they did Obama's year stamp by cutting the 08 out of a 2008 stamp and invert it to just show 80 with and upsidedown 8. It's pretty damning on it being an obvious fake.

I assume they had access to copies/pdfs of what was officially put out, but I have no idea what they used for their "investigation." There's a lot of BS in here and I'm not going to go over every debunked argument. But how does your community respond to that prior to the election, the Selective Service System Office confirmed he had registered, and even verified the place, date and registration number?

[The_Grand_Illusion]

Originally Posted by cosmo20002

I assume they had access to copies/pdfs of what was officially put out, but I have no idea what they used for their "investigation." There's a lot of BS in here and I'm not going to go over every debunked argument. But how does your community respond to that prior to the election, the Selective Service System Office confirmed he had registered, and even verified the place, date and registration number?

"Absolute power corrupts absolutely"

This is what we are seeing playing out with your liberal Democrat big-government entitlement culture.

TGI

[FD]

Originally Posted by cosmo20002

I assume they had access to copies/pdfs of what was officially put out, but I have no idea what they used for their "investigation." There's a lot of BS in here and I'm not going to go over every debunked argument. But how does your community respond to that prior to the election, the Selective Service System Office confirmed he had registered, and even verified the place, date and registration number?

Its a conspiracy, man!

[cosmo20002]

Originally Posted by The_Grand_Illusion

"Absolute power corrupts absolutely"

This is what we are seeing playing out with your liberal Democrat big-government entitlement culture.

TGI

You probably just missed this when you read it the first time, so I'll ask again:

How does your community respond to the fact that prior to the election, the Selective Service System Office confirmed Obama had registered? They even verified the place, date and registration number. What's up with that?

[philfree]

I'm under the impression that Obama's birth certificate wasn't provided to prove his birth place the first time he ran for President. Is that true? Is that why we have this issue?

[cosmo20002]

Originally Posted by FD

Its a conspiracy, man!

The hospital is in on it
The two city newspapers
The city of Honolulu
The state of Hawaii
The former Republican governor
The current Democratic governor
The Social Security Administration
The Selective Service Office
The US Postal Service
Obama's dad, who had himself killed in a car accident so he couldn't be questioned
Obama's mom, who had herself die of cancer so she couldn't be questioned
Bill and Hillary Clinton (I assume they are in on it because with Hillary as his election opponent surely they looked for and found all the evidence that would disqualify Obama from being president but chose not to go public with it)
John McCain - same as the Clintons. However, given his non-existent investigation of Sarah Palin, it is possible he did not know. So, he's a 'maybe.'
Every media organization - they sacrificed (and continue to sacrifice) the huge ratings an Obama-not-eligible story would bring
George Soros--set the whole thing up in the first place, probably

[cosmo20002]

Originally Posted by philfree

I'm under the impression that Obama's birth certificate wasn't provided to prove his birth place the first time he ran for President. Is that true? Is that why we have this issue?

It was provided. It just wasn't good enough for off-the-charts nuts who had irrational hatred for Obama. They demanded the 'original' from Obama, despite that the state keeps the actual original. They showed it to media who went down to the office to see it. Obama eventually made a special request for a copy of the original, which had been authenticated by the state and by Hawaii's Republican governor. Not good enough for the nuts, who claimed that by looking at a copy on their computer screen, they could determine it had been forged and modified with software.

Short answer to your question of why we have this issue is--Because a large portion of the Republican party is freaking nuts and/or just plain stupid.