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Old 05-21-2012, 06:26 PM  
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Old 05-22-2012, 09:58 PM   #106
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I don't think skin color differences cause nearly as many problems as cultural differences. Maybe some of us should rethink our worship of multiculturalism and consider a model based more on assimilation.
Public education is inherently a model based on a significant degree of assimilation. Public education is where different cultures collide, brush into each other, and mingle with one another. Maybe we should adopt a view that public education isn't anathema to America's future success.
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Old 05-22-2012, 09:59 PM   #107
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I don't think skin color differences cause nearly as many problems as cultural differences. Maybe some of us should rethink our worship of multiculturalism and consider a model based more on assimilation.
There goes girls' basketball
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Old 05-22-2012, 10:01 PM   #108
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Public education is inherently a model based on a significant degree of assimilation. Public education is where different cultures collide, brush into each other, and mingle with one another. Maybe we should adopt a view that public education isn't anathema to America's future success.
If that's true, maybe the assimilation should start before these various cultures collide in our schools.
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Old 05-22-2012, 10:01 PM   #109
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I bet that's clever, but I admit I don't get it.
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Old 05-22-2012, 10:02 PM   #110
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If that's true, maybe the assimilation should start before these various cultures collide in our schools.
I'd love to hear your ideas on how to mandate assimilation onto American citizens.
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Old 05-22-2012, 10:13 PM   #111
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I'd love to hear your ideas on how to mandate assimilation onto American citizens.
We could start by reforming our immigration rules to favor those who come from cultures that are more similar to ours and to put more of an emphasis on the ability to speak, read, and write the English language. Another good measure would be to simply stop holding cultural diversity up as a virtue (in such things as college admissions).
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Old 05-22-2012, 10:18 PM   #112
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Old 05-22-2012, 10:21 PM   #113
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We could start by reforming our immigration rules to favor those who come from cultures that are more similar to ours and to put more of an emphasis on the ability to speak, read, and write the English language. Another good measure would be to simply stop holding cultural diversity up as a virtue (in such things as college admissions).
Okay, so replace the Family-Connection preference and any asylum preference for people from Western Europe, and end affirmative action.

I'm not really sure that's more productive than promoting public education, for numerous reasons, though.
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Old 05-22-2012, 10:30 PM   #114
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I've said this before, you can't talk shit about Obama in front of black people (I can tell that teacher is black by her voice).
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Cultural diversity is a virtue in America.
I hear it causes problems in school.
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Okay, so replace the Family-Connection preference and any asylum preference for people from Western Europe, and end affirmative action.

I'm not really sure that's more productive than promoting public education, for numerous reasons, though.
Why can't you do both?
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Old 05-22-2012, 11:10 PM   #117
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I hear it causes problems in school.
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Blame the forefathers
Were they ardent multiculturalists?
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Old 05-22-2012, 11:24 PM   #119
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Why can't you do both?
I don't know. We currently can't do one too well as it is (the one about valuing public education), and that's the one I think is more important.
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Old 05-22-2012, 11:27 PM   #120
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Only when it helped them.

But they wrote it into the constitution. (even if they didn't follow all of it themselves)

But that point of view is interesting because it is shared by some old school black folks I know. Except they say it more like integration was awful for blacks because of the cultural barrier of the system/teachers.

I see both sides

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