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Old 04-01-2012, 03:23 PM  
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Game of Thrones *Spoiler* Thread

There's been some recent confusion with the old spoiler thread, so I'm kicking off a new one for tonight's premiere. This is going to be the one for folks who've read all the books. So anything anybody might want to talk about is in bounds. Suffice to say, if you haven't read the books, you'll probably want to stay out of here until you do...

I'll bump the old spoiler-free thread shortly in case anybody's interested. For future reference the link to that one is here
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Old 04-23-2013, 02:44 PM   #856
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Cercei would sacrifice anyone for a personal goal, including either of her brothers and had he lived I think Joffrey as well. She acts like it's family with her, but it never has been.
I should have said "children" rather than "family." But I believe it's true, I can't see her sacrificing Joffrey to help herself at all. Look at her response to Myrcella leaving. I truly believe it's all about her kids for her. One of her kids just happens to be completely horrible.
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Old 04-23-2013, 04:02 PM   #857
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I should have said "children" rather than "family." But I believe it's true, I can't see her sacrificing Joffrey to help herself at all. Look at her response to Myrcella leaving. I truly believe it's all about her kids for her. One of her kids just happens to be completely horrible.
Even if that's true, it's the same point. "Family" in Westeros means something different. It means the Lannister name and legacy. It doesn't mean Cercei favoring her children because they're hers. There's nothing honorable about her, in any sense of the word. In the books at least. She's a truly irredeemable character, which is what ultimately separates her from Jamie (as a character, not in a physical sense).

I think Jamie's arc is the best in the books, going from who people think he is in book 1, to who he really is when we get his PoV chapters, to who he's becoming over the course of the series.

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Old 04-23-2013, 04:22 PM   #858
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Holy hell yes.

Not only that but that scene was acted extremely well by her I thought. The fluent Valyrian language was spot on, and I really liked the unsullied pounding their spears (insert joke here) after Dany set them free.

I wanted that scene to last a little longer, but enjoyed it nonetheless. That is the part in the book where my jaw literally dropped when reading. Dany is a badass.

I'm kind of confused as to why they removed the revelation by Selmy that Jorah was originially sent to spy on her. I'm guessing because it's not necessarily pertinent to the condensed storyline of the show?
Pretty sure he doesn't tell her until Mereene. And then she makes Jorah go in the sewers to open it from the inside as punishment


Oh and also the show showed Myrcella crying and it was specifically stated that she never cried when she left KL. As it showed her ability to be strong. Bunch of idiots when it comes to those small but significant details.
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Old 04-23-2013, 04:45 PM   #859
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Even if that's true, it's the same point. "Family" in Westeros means something different. It means the Lannister name and legacy. It doesn't mean Cercei favoring her children because they're hers. There's nothing honorable about her, in any sense of the word. In the books at least. She's a truly irredeemable character, which is what ultimately separates her from Jamie (as a character, not in a physical sense).

I think Jamie's arc is the best in the books, going from who people think he is in book 1, to who he really is when we get his PoV chapters, to who he's becoming over the course of the series.
I never said there's anything honorable about her, just that I kind of like her. She is just a mother doing anything to protect and advance her children.

Catelyn releases the most dangerous man in Westeros to protect her children, she slits the throat of a mentally disabled person to try to protect one child, and later she is fully prepared to execute someone she knows is innocent to protect her children. How is she different?
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Old 04-28-2013, 06:48 PM   #860
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Is there anyway to find a website that streams GoT while it's on? I don't wanna wait till tomorrow lol.
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Old 04-28-2013, 06:59 PM   #861
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Is there anyway to find a website that streams GoT while it's on? I don't wanna wait till tomorrow lol.
Tubeplus usually has it up a couple of hours later.
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Old 04-28-2013, 07:59 PM   #862
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Tubeplus usually has it up a couple of hours later.
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The imp gets to marry a hot, younger girl.

Cersei gets to marry a gay guy...

The "who gets to marry whom" sub plot will come to a head very soon. And while they are all worried about that, here comes Dani, three dragons, and a legion of ubber loyal former slaves.
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Shireen = Patchface, apparently. Seems like it will work plot-wise, but it's significantly less creepy.
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Old 04-29-2013, 10:26 AM   #865
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Her singing that song over the closing credits was pretty creepy sounding though.
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The "who gets to marry whom" sub plot will come to a head very soon. And while they are all worried about that, here comes Dani, three dragons, and a legion of ubber loyal former slaves.
Joffery is about to get his throat plugged. Shireen is so cute though. Good casting job.
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Old 04-30-2013, 05:40 AM   #867
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[quote=Setsuna;9644359]Joffery is about to get his throat plugged./QUOTE]

I kind of hope they have Joffery on screen more before the wedding and choking scene, just for all the people that didn't read the books.

Outside of the tour and waving to the crowd scene he hasn't been in this season very much yet.
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They have to be breaking this book into two seasons, right? The final episode is called "Mhysa" That has to be Dany at Yunkai, in my opinon, where she was named Mother.
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They have to be breaking this book into two seasons, right? The final episode is called "Mhysa" That has to be Dany at Yunkai, in my opinon, where she was named Mother.
Most like. It's a book packed with a lot of events. I do like how they haven't gone back to Theon and Ramsay. Just like in the books.
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Joffery is about to get his throat plugged./QUOTE]

I kind of hope they have Joffery on screen more before the wedding and choking scene, just for all the people that didn't read the books.

Outside of the tour and waving to the crowd scene he hasn't been in this season very much yet.
They are breaking it into two seasons, so Joffrey will likely be around until the middle of next season. Episode 9 is called Rains of Castamere, so I think we all know that one will feature the Red Wedding as the big conclusion to this season.

I think they end next season with Tyrion and his dad, so Joffrey will probably get his in episode 4 or 5 so they can have the trial by battle and all that before episode 9.
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