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Old 03-08-2012, 11:50 AM  
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Neighborhood watch captain shoots innocent black youth and doesn't even get arrested

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ORLANDO, Florida (Reuters) - The family of a 17-year-old African-American boy shot to death last month in his gated Florida community by a white Neighborhood Watch captain wants to see the captain arrested, the family's lawyer said on Wednesday.

Trayvon Martin was shot dead after he took a break from watching NBA All-Star game television coverage to walk 10 minutes to a convenience store to buy snacks including Skittles candy requested by his 13-year-old brother, Chad, the family's lawyer Ben Crump said.

"He was a good kid," Crump said in an interview, adding that the family would issue a call for the Watch captain's arrest at a news conference on Thursday. "On his way home, a Neighborhood Watch loose cannon shot and killed him."

[Related: Fla. teen avoids deportation]

Trayvon, who lived in Miami with his mother, had been visiting his father and stepmother in a gated townhome community called The Retreat at Twin Lakes in Sanford, 20 miles north of Orlando.

As Trayvon returned to the townhome, Sanford police received a 911 call reporting a suspicious person.

Although names are blacked out on the police report, Crump and media reports at the time of the shooting identified the caller as George Zimmerman who is listed in the community's newsletter as the Neighborhood Watch captain.

Without waiting for police to arrive, Crump said, Zimmerman confronted Trayvon, who was on the sidewalk near his home. By the time police got there, Trayvon was dead of a single gunshot to the chest.

"What do the police find in his pocket? Skittles," Crump said. "A can of Arizona ice tea in his jacket pocket and Skittles in his front pocket for his brother Chad."

Zimmerman could not be reached for comment on Wednesday evening at a phone number listed for him on the community's newsletter.

Crump said the family was concerned that police might decide to consider the shooting as self defense, and that police have ignored the family's request for a copy of the original 911 call, which they think will shed light on the incidents.

"If the 911 protocol across the country held to form here, they told him not to get involved. He disobeyed that order," said Ryan Julison, a spokesman for the family.

"He (Zimmerman) didn't have to get out of his car," said Crump, who has prepared a public records lawsuit to file on Thursday if the family doesn't get the 911 tape. "If he never gets out of his car, there is no reason for self-defense. Trayvon only has skittles. He has the gun."

Since Trayvon, a high school junior who wanted to be a pilot, was black and Zimmerman is white, Crump said race is "the 600 pound elephant in the room."

"Why is this kid suspicious in the first place? I think a stereotype must have been placed on the kid," Crump said.

(Editing By Cynthia Johnston and Peter Bohan)

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Old 03-25-2012, 04:56 PM   #1576
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3. I'm sorry you lack the intelligence to come up with your own conclusion.
Funny, thats what it seems 99% of the people in this thread are guilty of...

I never said I wouldn't come to my own conclusion, I said I would come to my own conclusion when/if stand your ground becomes Zimmerman's defense...

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Old 03-25-2012, 04:58 PM   #1577
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Funny, thats what it seems 99% of the people in this thread are guilty of...

I never said I wouldn't come to my own conclusion, I said I would come to my own conclusion when/if stand your ground becomes Zimmerman's defense...

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3) I'm going to go out on a limb and trust legitimate legal experts instead of you on this issue. Besides, it really isn't relevant just yet...since neither party has claimed their side was 'standing their ground' yet. It could be a simple 'self defense' case, it might involve stand your ground.....but I am willing to wait until it comes into play to determine which side has the right to claim stand your ground, if any.

Sounds like you can't make up your mind actually. Keep on getting butthurt and resulting to name calling though, brah.
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Old 03-25-2012, 04:59 PM   #1578
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1. ITT: You have to pull out your gun for the victim to realize you have a gun.
Exactly you little ****ing troll. Which is why when you said this:


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He had every right to feel threatened by a dude bigger and older chasing him down in a truck with a gun.
You proved that you are either a ****ing idiot or trolin' hard. Martin did not know Zimmerman had a gun when he punched him.

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Old 03-25-2012, 05:00 PM   #1579
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Exactly you little ****ing troll. Which is why when you said this:




You proved that you are either a ****ing idiot or trolin' hard. Martin did not know Zimmerman had a gun when he punched him.

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Haha excellent job polling the dead teen for his side of the situation.

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Old 03-25-2012, 05:02 PM   #1580
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Sounds like you can't make up your mind actually. Keep on getting butthurt and resulting to name calling though, brah.
Yah sorry I guess I will have to resort to the same logic as lawyers and judges (relying on precedents, other judges opinions, legal experts etc..) and trying to see how it fits in with what I believe is the intent of the law, in an unbiased manner....rather than just making shit up to fit an argument on the internet.

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Martin did not know Zimmerman had a gun when he punched him.
How do we know Martin was unaware that Zimmerman had a gun? Maybe he did know and decided to go down swinging, rather than letting Zimmerman do whatever he pleased to him.
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Old 03-25-2012, 05:04 PM   #1582
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Yah sorry I guess I will have to resort to the same logic as lawyers and judges (relying on precedents, other judges opinions, legal experts etc..) and trying to see how it fits in with what I believe is the intent of the law, in an unbiased manner....rather than just making shit up to fit an argument on the internet.

LOL.
You're simply just scrambling random thoughts and sentences into shitty posts to be edgy. If anyone has a different opinion from yours you seem to throw a temper tantrum and result to name calling.

I'm totally cool with jumping to conclusions, and mine happens to be that you're a dolt.
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How do we know Martin was unaware that Zimmerman had a gun? Maybe he did know and decided to go down swinging, rather than letting Zimmerman do whatever he pleased to him.
This is a good question...We do not know , is the the only logical answer. I guess more accurate to say there is no evidence of this.....Martin did not tell his girlfriend....also, it doesnt seem likely that Zimmerman would draw a gun, and then Martin would punch him in the face with Zimmerman holding a weapon.
That scenario does not seem reasonable to me, but perhaps it might to others.
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If anyone has a different opinion from yours you seem to throw a temper tantrum and result to name calling.
Only if that person's 'opinion' is so ****ing stupid it is beyond logic. I actually enjoy a reasonable, civil debate with non-trolls.
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This is a good question...We do not know , is the the only logical answer. I guess more accurate to say there is no evidence of this.....Martin did not tell his girlfriend....also, it doesnt seem likely that Zimmerman would draw a gun, and then Martin would punch him in the face with Zimmerman holding a weapon.
That scenario does not seem reasonable to me, but perhaps it might to others.
Maybe Martin hit him as Zimmerman went for his gun.
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Only if that person's 'opinion' is so ****ing stupid it is beyond logic. I actually enjoy a reasonable, civil debate with non-trolls.
This is amusing.

http://www.wagist.com/2012/dan-lineh...-a-drug-dealer

You can post your thoughts and theories in the comments section here. ^

Your thoughts should mesh well with Proud Aryan Patriot
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Maybe Martin hit him as Zimmerman went for his gun.
Maybe....but how would he know he was going for a gun?

But the for sure thing is that he did hit him and break his nose and knock him to the ground....

I think you are pretty much at the heart of the issue though...Why did Trayvon throw the punch? Why/When did Martin pull his gun? Who laid hands on the other 1st?

The Key issues.
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Wait because I think you are a moron, I am somehow a racist? Are you black? If so I feel bad for black people.
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Wait because I think you are a moron, I am somehow a racist? Are you black? If so I feel bad for black people.
woosh god you're dumb
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