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Old 02-03-2012, 09:27 PM  
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Old 01-31-2013, 11:24 AM   #46
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Old 01-31-2013, 11:29 AM   #47
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Old 01-31-2013, 01:19 PM   #48
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Old 01-31-2013, 02:32 PM   #49
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Technically you are correct. There is no comparison in the strength and leadership the US has taken since the income tax. Period end of discussion.

Imagine if a consumption tax had been implemented instead of an income tax. The government would be vested in creating legislation that drove economic transactions. Not just trying to decide who to take money from. But actually attempting to benefit our overall economy. Citizens could (if they so chose) save money more easily just by not spending it. The responsible ones would build a nest egg, untouched by taxes, then make purchases befitting their lifestyle of choice.
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Old 01-31-2013, 02:46 PM   #50
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Imagine if a consumption tax had been implemented instead of an income tax. The government would be vested in creating legislation that drove economic transactions. Not just trying to decide who to take money from. But actually attempting to benefit our overall economy. Citizens could (if they so chose) save money more easily just by not spending it. The responsible ones would build a nest egg, untouched by taxes, then make purchases befitting their lifestyle of choice.
We can still do all of that, even with an income tax.
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Old 01-31-2013, 02:52 PM   #51
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Old 01-31-2013, 04:09 PM   #52
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It looks affordable, people keep saying they want to cut costs~
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Old 01-31-2013, 05:08 PM   #53
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We can still do all of that, even with an income tax.
Not really. You'd think you can, but what ends up happening is the creation of loopholes, and the corruption of incentive.
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Old 01-31-2013, 07:44 PM   #54
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Not really. You'd think you can, but what ends up happening is the creation of loopholes, and the corruption of incentive.
Yeah, you can. If you're not, it just means you're spending more than you earn.
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Old 01-31-2013, 10:09 PM   #55
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Yeah, you can.
What example of this would you like to share with us?
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Old 01-31-2013, 10:23 PM   #56
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What example of this would you like to share with us?
Do you put $5000 each year into a Roth IRA? It's tax deductible, can be tax-free when matured, and is a perfect example of a "loophole" that incentivizes people to build a nest egg for their retirement.
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Old 01-31-2013, 10:53 PM   #57
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Do you put $5000 each year into a Roth IRA? It's tax deductible, can be tax-free when matured, and is a perfect example of a "loophole" that incentivizes people to build a nest egg for their retirement.

How many people do you think do that? You're completely missing Listo's point that more people would save if they had more of their own money to save.
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Old 01-31-2013, 10:55 PM   #58
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How many people do you think do that? You're completely missing Listo's point that more people would save if they had more of their own money to save.
Not enough people do it. People just don't save. It's not the government's fault.
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Old 02-01-2013, 01:49 AM   #59
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Not enough people do it. People just don't save. It's not the government's fault.
****ing people. We'd have a utopia if it weren't for them.

Poor defenseless government being castigated on their account. Why won't people just leave the poor government alone?
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Old 02-01-2013, 08:34 AM   #60
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****ing people. We'd have a utopia if it weren't for them.

Poor defenseless government being castigated on their account. Why won't people just leave the poor government alone?
****ing United States government. We'd have a utopia if it wasn't for that damn thing.

I can meet your hysterical hyperbole all day. What's next?
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