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Old 12-31-2011, 02:52 PM  
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2012 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread

2012 Slogan: Our Time

A better, more accurate 2012 Slogan: It is Finally Next Year
(from Great Expectations)

An alternative slogan if you don't like that one: Someone has to win this crappy division
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With the beginning of a new year, it is time for the 2012 version of the Royals Repository Thread. We've got Hosmer, we've got a 2011-dominating Gordon, we've got Moose, we've got hopefully a killer bullpen, we've got a stereotypical slow slugging DH, we've got easily one of the best defensive shortstops in the AL, we've got a promising catcher in Salvador Perez. Hell, we've got offense and promising prospects galore.

We do not have starting pitching.

Oh yeah, we've also got this:



Get ready for, (as of January 2012 anyway), one of the most confusing puzzles of a baseball season in recent Royals history. Will they suck? Maybe, I don't know. Will we be given a year of 0.500 baseball? Possibly, I don't know. Will they win the division and go to the playoffs for the first time in 27 years? For the first time in a long time, it could happen, I don't know. 92 losses, 92 wins, or anything in between would not surprise a lot of us.

Everything goes here except Gameday threads and really big news. If a giant story breaks, the Royals achieve some awesome milestone, or we sign/lose a highly significant player/coach/mascot/whatever, then it might also deserve its own thread. This being Chiefs Planet, please do not clutter the board with new threads about trivial Royals news or you will only annoy those who come here for just Chiefs football. If you aren't sure and its not a Gameday thread, it goes here.

What sort of stuff often goes here? SPchief explained it well, so I'll just copy that:

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If you locate something of interest.. ANYTHING.. deals on apparel, best ways in/out of the stadium, giveaways, great stories from this season or from seasons gone by, rumors, trades, anything.... feel free to post it here.

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Old 01-18-2012, 12:15 PM   #271
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Jackson or Oswalt. Do it.
I like Jackson quite a bit. Surprised he hasn't signed anywhere yet.

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At this point, if the Royals stand pat and do not sign another free agent or trade for anyone else, the opening day payroll will be somewhere around $57-58MM. Last year that would put us at about 24th. (last year we were at $36.1MM, which was far and away the cheapest)
I can live with this for now. If we're doing this when Moose, Hos, Escobar, etc. need new deals.........
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Old 01-18-2012, 12:56 PM   #272
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Old 01-18-2012, 01:26 PM   #273
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When you stop calling him Alice. Now you've ruined it. We're doomed to suckle from the hind tit of baseball for another 26 years. It's all your fault.
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Old 01-18-2012, 03:25 PM   #274
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How long till Alice gets his new deal?
If its ever going to happen, the next few weeks are far more likely than later. The Royals would be far better off locking him up now, assuming he isn't determined to test free agency, than trying during the season or next off-season.

If we don't have a long-term deal before the arbitration hearing (or maybe spring training, but I'd think we'd try to avoid arbitration), then Royals fans would be justified in feeling nervous about keeping him long-term.
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Old 01-18-2012, 03:51 PM   #276
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I like Jackson quite a bit. Surprised he hasn't signed anywhere yet.



I can live with this for now. If we're doing this when Moose, Hos, Escobar, etc. need new deals.........
I'd be willing to bet overinflated value has something to do with it.
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Old 01-18-2012, 04:26 PM   #277
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I like Jackson quite a bit. Surprised he hasn't signed anywhere yet.
Well, Boras is asking for 5 years, $75 million...
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Old 01-18-2012, 05:38 PM   #278
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Well, Boras is asking for 5 years, $75 million...
Oh...nevermind...
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Old 01-18-2012, 05:39 PM   #279
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Oh...nevermind...
His price is coming down. MLB has proven he's not worth that much, now at least a half-dozen teams (possibly including the royals) are staring at one another as Boras gradually lowers the price.
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If Jackson/Oswalt would be the difference in winning or not winning the division, I'm really not too worried about overpaying by $3M per or so.

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Old 01-19-2012, 08:21 AM   #282
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Yeah, the price is coming down on Boras (which is definitely a pleasant change). Three-four years for Jackson would be pretty perfect, IMO. Especially if they sign him at a reasonable price (which would give you more flexibility in trading him if the Royals minor league pitchers develop really well).

Of course, I would be fine with it being less reasonable, and them actually getting him.

Hochevar/Jackson/Sanchez/Chen/Paulino/Duffy/Montgomery is a vast improvement in the rotation options, and it gives nice insurance if Chen gets hurt (which he probably will) or one of the young guys doesn't really step up.

I think that rotation would be good enough to make them competitive in the division, as long as the offense produces at a similar level as last year.
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I just hope that DM is entertaining the idea of going after Jackson. If we don't get him because someone else overpays, so be it, but if we don't get him because we are resting on our laurels after the Sanchez trade, I will be disappointed. I agree with the concern that we shouldn't block guys in the minors, but those guys aren't ready yet, and it would've great to have an inning eater like Jackson to help us in the meantime.
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Do yourself a favor and download that (props to Rany for pointing it out on Twitter). Some great stuff at 47 minute mark and on.
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Old 01-19-2012, 10:31 AM   #285
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I would have loved to have Pineda. Damn.
According to Rany today, it would have taken Hosmer, or Mouse + someone else, to get Pineda. Seems pretty steep, and Iím surprised Montero got that much value.


His justification for Seattle trading Pineda was that they are 3 years away, and a bat has a better chance of being healthy 3 years from now than a starting pitcher.
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