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Old 11-28-2011, 07:19 AM  
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Old 11-29-2011, 09:49 AM   #61
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Old 11-29-2011, 09:50 AM   #62
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Old 11-29-2011, 09:58 AM   #63
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I would take that as a good sign for KU.
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Old 11-29-2011, 10:01 AM   #64
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Still think Larry Fedora would be the best for the job (wanted him over Gill the first time). I'm not an expert, and take it all at face value from what I read on the internet.

So, like most of us, I have no real clue as to who would be the best candidate.
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Old 11-29-2011, 10:03 AM   #65
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Knowing Zenger, I doubt he would make a move like he did as quickly as he did without having pocket aces. It wouldn't surprise me at all if something were to be announced next Monday, hell, or even this Friday.
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Old 11-29-2011, 10:34 AM   #66
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How much money can KU give Leach? The Athletic Department is already in debt and they just absorbed a pretty sizable hit when they fired Gill. Most of the donor money is likely going to KU Basketball at this point to boot.

Leach will get some very lucrative offers. A school like UCLA would likely throw a ton of money at him, no? As well as the opportunity to recruit California recruits for his spread.

I know he has a quasi-relationship with your AD and is likely to relish the chance to play Tech every season, but can KU really stay in the financial ballpark if UCLA comes and offers him $3 million+/season? They'll also likely give him a hell of a recruiting budget and more money to pay his assistants than KU could.

I love the guy, more power to you if you get him, but can the finances really work out?
You and this debt thing. The debt you speak of is manageable born out of capital improvements. You'll learn anout this as your school attempts to keep pace in the SEC. The amount of the debt has been paid off ahead of schedule, so don't you worry your black and gold head about it.

UCLA isn't goint to offer 3 million a year and Leach isn't even their top target. This is all about trying to gain leverage. Not saying KU will get Leach, just that your scenario buys into the leverage Leach wants to create. KU will counter with other candidates and how badly Leach would like to get back into the Big XII and Texas recruiting which is his wheelhouse.

The finances come mostly from boosters, not the university. IOW, boosters have made up the buyout money. So, the university books are largely concerned with what they are paying the next head coach. Don't forget, the new contract begins to kick in as well, so these revenue problems you're so concerned for us about aren't nearly as bad I believe you hope they are.
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Old 11-29-2011, 10:35 AM   #67
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Still think Larry Fedora would be the best for the job (wanted him over Gill the first time). I'm not an expert, and take it all at face value from what I read on the internet.

So, like most of us, I have no real clue as to who would be the best candidate.
Am I crazy for thinking you guys should target Sonny Dykes?

He might just be Leach without the crazy and the pricetag. Then again, Leach without the crazy is only about 1/2 as entertaining.

The good news is that you can't do worse than the last guy.
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Old 11-29-2011, 10:40 AM   #68
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Don't forget, the new contract begins to kick in as well, so these revenue problems you're so concerned for us about aren't nearly as bad I believe you hope they are.
Sweetheart - I'm not wishing ill on your program at all. I'm legitimately curious at this point.

Like I said - I love me some Mike Leach. Put him in the XII and I'll still get to see his teams play and listen to him be a little nuts. I'll get to see a guy that wants nothing more than to beat a team from Texas; I can get behind that. It'll make sports radio in the area that much better and it's not like Mizzou will have to deal with playing him at this point since you fellas are still being bitter.

I'd be happy to see Leach end up at KU, it just seems like a pretty tall order to pay for Gill, Perkins and Leach at the same time, especially at a school where most booster dollars seem to be allocated to basketball (your own faithful will make that point and make it frequently).

Calm down, dick. Just because you like to come be a complete troll in our threads doesn't mean I'm doing the same here; quit projecting. You'll notice I didn't even post in your disaster of a 2011 thread because I don't care about that trainwreck, nor did I post in the EMAW thread.
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Am I crazy for thinking you guys should target Sonny Dykes?

He might just be Leach without the crazy and the pricetag. Then again, Leach without the crazy is only about 1/2 as entertaining.

The good news is that you can't do worse than the last guy.
I actually think Sonny Dykes would be a good candidate as well.

And please stop reminding us about the last guy.. I thank you for at least not using his name.
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I'd be happy to see Leach end up at KU, it just seems like a pretty tall order to pay for Gill, Perkins and Leach at the same time, especially at a school where most booster dollars seem to be allocated to basketball (your own faithful will make that point and make it frequently).
Gill will be off the books because his money is due in like 90 days or something - or that could be a rumor, I don't know....but I don't think Zenger would have made his move so quickly if the money wasn't already lined up.
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I actually think Sonny Dykes would be a good candidate as well.

And please stop reminding us about the last guy.. I thank you for at least not using his name.
Okay - another legitimate question - is there any actual animus towards him?

For instance, I think Herm's a dolt of a head coach, but a legitimately nice guy. He was a guy that I really wanted to see succeed but damn if he couldn't just stay out of his own way.

KU fans seem to hate Gill right now, and I suppose with good reason. But is he the kind of guy you really want to essentially expunge from existence? I mean it's not like he Quin Snydered you fellas or anything. He didn't bring in a bunch of women beaters and rapists, didn't do coke, put you on probation or nail a player's girlfriend. If nothing else, he was a damn fine representative for your program. Does that spare him any barbs here or is it pretty much just raw, unadulterated hate?

There just seems to be a lot of personal venom towards Gill. I know he was a shitty coach, but damn, he didn't go all Sandusky or anything.
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Old 11-29-2011, 10:50 AM   #73
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Gill will be off the books because his money is due in like 90 days or something - or that could be a rumor, I don't know....but I don't think Zenger would have made his move so quickly if the money wasn't already lined up.
Not sure I ever understood peoples thinking about "off the books". $6 mil is $6 mil in this instance. Paying up front doesn't make it any better for the university, if anything it makes it worse.

The only thing it gives us fans is a Peace of Mind that the abortion has been put behind us.
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Gill will be off the books because his money is due in like 90 days or something - or that could be a rumor, I don't know....but I don't think Zenger would have made his move so quickly if the money wasn't already lined up.
Wow - Gill must have a hell of an agent.

I wonder if it's a reduced amount at least; the time value of several million dollars that would've been earned over another 3 years is pretty significant. If he's getting the same amount and getting it all up front, he's cornholing you guys. Besides, if he gets another job, that would offset the amount he would technically be owed (mitigating the damages). As such, KU would be entitled to reduce the entire balance by whatever he earned. If he already has that in hand, KU now has to go through the process of getting it back from him.

I'll be honest, that kinda seems unlikely, but I guess it's not impossible. Did they negotiate a reduced buyout with him? Because that would make more sense at that point. He'd have more leverage to demand it within 90 days and he'd have more incentive to go out and find a new job.
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Not sure I ever understood peoples thinking about "off the books". $6 mil is $6 mil in this instance. Paying up front doesn't make it any better for the university, if anything it makes it worse.

The only thing it gives us fans is a Peace of Mind that the abortion has been put behind us.
Does that $6 million come from the university, or donors?
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