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Kerberos · 04-17-2011, 12:55 PM

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Scott Pioli would draft Tyson Jackson all over again
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on April 17, 2011, 1:21 PM EDT

Before Peter King put Tyson Jackson third in his Sports Illustrated Mock Draft two years ago, no one thought Jackson was even a top-15 pick. And wouldn’t you know: Jackson went third to the Chiefs in a stunning choice.

Jackson was supposed to be a safe, if unflashy building block to Kansas City’s 3-4 defense. Perhaps an answer to New England’s Ty Warren. It hasn’t worked out that way so far, but Chiefs G.M. Scott Pioli said he would make the same pick all over again.

“I’d take the same player again,” Pioli said this week via Bob Gretz.com. “Absolutely. Absolutely.”

Hmmm. We suppose Pioli has to say that, but it defies belief. Jackson only started three games last year. The same draft class included defenders like B.J. Raji, Brian Cushing, and Brian Orakpo in the top 15 picks.

We know sack numbers aren’t a big deal for 3-4 defensive ends, but Jackson has one in two seasons. He was arguably the fourth best end on his team last year behind Wallace Gilberry, Glenn Dorsey, and Shaun Smith.

“I know the jury is still out [on Jackson]; we all need to see that,” Pioli said. ”Everyone in our organization is pretty confident still that Tyson is going to be a good player.”

We need to see it soon. Jackson isn’t a Vernon Gholston-type bust, but there’s no spinning the fact a lot more is expected out of a top-3 pick.

Frankie · 04-18-2011, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankie

I was somewhat in that boat then. But actually I am not so sure now. Sanchez is a good QB, but I was thinking possible future elite. Sanchez strikes me as another Eli manning.

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Originally Posted by Jaric

Anyway, those of you clamoring for Mark Sanchez are suffering from "any port in the storm" syndrome. I'd personally rather have Cassel.

Since this was in response to my post I have taken it a bit personally.

I have not exactly clamored for Sanchez.

ct · 04-19-2011, 09:27 AM

He said what he had to say. The correct pick would have been BJ Raji.

Mr. Laz · 08-14-2012, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Bump

Tyson Jackson ****ing sucks, ADMIT IT and move on.

I say cut his ass

**Pestilence** · 08-14-2012, 04:40 PM

Yeah......great bump. Can we get him banned now?

Shaid · 08-14-2012, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

With Jackson still on the team, that is the right thing to say.

Pretty much. What else can he do until he's no longer on the team? Can't badmouth the guy.

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notorious · 11-09-2012, 07:46 AM

“I’d take the same player again,” Pioli said this week via Bob Gretz.com. “Absolutely. Absolutely.”

Pioli doesn't need to be fired, he needs to be ****ing executed.

Mother****erJones · 11-09-2012, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious

“I’d take the same player again,” Pioli said this week via Bob Gretz.com. “Absolutely. Absolutely.”

Pioli doesn't need to be fired, he needs to be ****ing executed.

No he needs a ****ing mental evaluation!

notorious · 11-09-2012, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by dtchiefs4life

No he needs a ****ing mental evaluation!

We all do for sticking with this team.

TEX · 11-09-2012, 12:20 PM

What a ****ing IDIOT. Back then it was clear that TJ was NOT the player that Pioli thought he would be. This guy is PROVING that he refuses to learn from his mistakes which means that he is destined to REPEAT THEM. NO WAY I want him anywher near another attempt to rebuild the team, I don't want him picking the next HC and especially don't want him picking the QBOTF. GTF OUT OF TOWN ALREADY!

warrior · 11-09-2012, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX

What a ****ing IDIOT. Back then it was clear that TJ was NOT the player that Pioli thought he would be. This guy is PROVING that he refuses to learn from his mistakes which means that he is destined to REPEAT THEM. NO WAY I want him anywher near another attempt to rebuild the team, I don't want him picking the next HC and especially don't want him picking the QBOTF. GTF OUT OF TOWN ALREADY!

I agree with everything you said.

beach tribe · 11-09-2012, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan

yeah but at least gholston was so post to be picked high

No waaaaay.

whoman69 · 11-09-2012, 03:07 PM

So he's saying he's a dipshit even in hindsight? There were six all-pros drafted after Jackson and a serviceable QB.

theelusiveeightrop · 11-09-2012, 04:21 PM

I wouldn't let Tyson Jackson near a deflated football or mow my lawn.

chiefzilla1501 · 11-09-2012, 04:24 PM

Tyson Jackson is a better player when playing under a coach that actually preaches discipline and toughness. Like all players, he's playing with his head up his ass and soft and passive. It was a bad pick, but he's not a complete bust. This pick was actually better than a lot of other picks made at the same level.

The reason this pick was a bad one is that it signaled that Pioli had only one way of building a team. I really don't think Haley wanted 2-gap. And yet Pioli said on his first huge move that that was exactly what the Chiefs were going to do.

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Kerberos Purple Pride Baby Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Henderson, NV Casino cash: $1036123	Scott Pioli would draft Tyson Jackson all over again http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ll-over-again/ Scott Pioli would draft Tyson Jackson all over again Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on April 17, 2011, 1:21 PM EDT Before Peter King put Tyson Jackson third in his Sports Illustrated Mock Draft two years ago, no one thought Jackson was even a top-15 pick. And wouldn’t you know: Jackson went third to the Chiefs in a stunning choice. Jackson was supposed to be a safe, if unflashy building block to Kansas City’s 3-4 defense. Perhaps an answer to New England’s Ty Warren. It hasn’t worked out that way so far, but Chiefs G.M. Scott Pioli said he would make the same pick all over again. “I’d take the same player again,” Pioli said this week via Bob Gretz.com. “Absolutely. Absolutely.” Hmmm. We suppose Pioli has to say that, but it defies belief. Jackson only started three games last year. The same draft class included defenders like B.J. Raji, Brian Cushing, and Brian Orakpo in the top 15 picks. We know sack numbers aren’t a big deal for 3-4 defensive ends, but Jackson has one in two seasons. He was arguably the fourth best end on his team last year behind Wallace Gilberry, Glenn Dorsey, and Shaun Smith. “I know the jury is still out [on Jackson]; we all need to see that,” Pioli said. ”Everyone in our organization is pretty confident still that Tyson is going to be a good player.” We need to see it soon. Jackson isn’t a Vernon Gholston-type bust, but there’s no spinning the fact a lot more is expected out of a top-3 pick.
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