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Old 04-17-2011, 12:55 PM  
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Scott Pioli would draft Tyson Jackson all over again

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Scott Pioli would draft Tyson Jackson all over again
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on April 17, 2011, 1:21 PM EDT


Before Peter King put Tyson Jackson third in his Sports Illustrated Mock Draft two years ago, no one thought Jackson was even a top-15 pick. And wouldn’t you know: Jackson went third to the Chiefs in a stunning choice.

Jackson was supposed to be a safe, if unflashy building block to Kansas City’s 3-4 defense. Perhaps an answer to New England’s Ty Warren. It hasn’t worked out that way so far, but Chiefs G.M. Scott Pioli said he would make the same pick all over again.

“I’d take the same player again,” Pioli said this week via Bob Gretz.com. “Absolutely. Absolutely.”

Hmmm. We suppose Pioli has to say that, but it defies belief. Jackson only started three games last year. The same draft class included defenders like B.J. Raji, Brian Cushing, and Brian Orakpo in the top 15 picks.

We know sack numbers aren’t a big deal for 3-4 defensive ends, but Jackson has one in two seasons. He was arguably the fourth best end on his team last year behind Wallace Gilberry, Glenn Dorsey, and Shaun Smith.

“I know the jury is still out [on Jackson]; we all need to see that,” Pioli said. ”Everyone in our organization is pretty confident still that Tyson is going to be a good player.”

We need to see it soon. Jackson isn’t a Vernon Gholston-type bust, but there’s no spinning the fact a lot more is expected out of a top-3 pick.
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Old 04-17-2011, 02:20 PM   #31
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Scott, the correct answer on draft day and now should have been:
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Old 04-17-2011, 02:29 PM   #32
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WTF is Scott gonna say? Dude sucks and was a wasted pick. That'll do wonders for the kids confidence.
!@#$ the kid's confidence.

Maybe his bosses telling him he's been a massive disappointment and that there are literally dozens of players they regret not taking instead of him will actually get him to play with some fire.

If the result of coddling the boy is his last two seasons of 'production', I think it's probably time to kick him in the teeth.
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Old 04-17-2011, 02:41 PM   #33
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Even if he "breaks out" he still wont be worthy of that pick.
Depends on if he breaks out to be elite or not.

I know, I know,... I'm hoping 4 2much.
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Old 04-17-2011, 02:51 PM   #34
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Glen Dorsey made huge strides this last year, so I'm hoping for the same from T Jackson. He has much to prove and so does many on this team have much to prove so we can build success around.

I think Glen Dorsey can lead by example for T Jackson to work hard and improve his game considerably. I'm not saying the job will get done but not wanting to give up on him to waist a pick that high in the draft.

TJ may end up as a bust, but am wanting him to prove himself otherwise.
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Old 04-17-2011, 02:55 PM   #35
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Old 04-17-2011, 03:21 PM   #36
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Glen Dorsey made huge strides this last year, so I'm hoping for the same from T Jackson.
Dorsey was considered the #1 player on many draft sites regardless of position. IMO, he has not lived up to that hype and I wonder if he has not reached his ceiling.

To be really honest, if Denver offered us their first rounder for him I might be real tempted for a chance to choose between Vonn Miller and Marcel Dareaus.
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Old 04-17-2011, 03:22 PM   #37
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Old 04-17-2011, 03:24 PM   #38
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Dorsey was considered the #1 player on many draft sites regardless of position. IMO, he has not lived up to that hype and I wonder if he has not reached his ceiling.

To be really honest, if Denver offered us their first rounder for him I might be real tempted for a chance to choose between Vonn Miller and Marcel Dareaus.
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Old 04-17-2011, 03:27 PM   #39
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!@#$ the kid's confidence.

Maybe his bosses telling him he's been a massive disappointment and that there are literally dozens of players they regret not taking instead of him will actually get him to play with some fire.

If the result of coddling the boy is his last two seasons of 'production', I think it's probably time to kick him in the teeth.
I think benching him for a journeyman is the equivalent of kicking him in the teeth.

I don't see any coddling with Tyson Jackson going on to be honest.
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!@#$ the kid's confidence.

Maybe his bosses telling him he's been a massive disappointment and that there are literally dozens of players they regret not taking instead of him will actually get him to play with some fire.

If the result of coddling the boy is his last two seasons of 'production', I think it's probably time to kick him in the teeth.
No GM does that. Not publically, anyway.
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Let's all point at this ****ing retard and laugh. Its cathartic.
Another substantive rebuttal from Saul. Stick to DC where not knowing your elbow from your asshole gets your taint a tongue punching.
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Another substantive rebuttal from Saul. Stick to DC where not knowing your elbow from your asshole gets your taint a tongue punching.
Thanks for the advice. Should we go with Clasuen, Ghoulston, or some Lineman who winds up going in the 4th round with our first pick?
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Thanks for the advice. Should we go with Clasuen, Ghoulston, or some Lineman who winds up going in the 4th round with our first pick?
Maybe we should go with the guy who already won more playoff games in two years than ours won in 40. We could try that.
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Pretty much. We're $60 million into that kid. Let's just write it off and blow him up now. He said what he needs to say to the media. I have no doubt he's kicked himself in the ass over that one a few times. Hell, Todd's probably busted his balls on it by now.
Trade his ass to Al Davis
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