who is this years Mecca miss like Clady and Orakpo...

[MGRS13]

Orakpo making immediate impact

Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on November 20, 2009 1:14 PM ET
We've criticized the Redskins front office more than a few times on PFT, so it's only fair to give them credit when they get something right.

Drafting Brian Orakpo thirteenth overall was very right.

The rookie linebacker/defensive end has seven sacks in his last seven games. That number alone is the most for any rookie since 2006, and it's amazing because he only plays with his hand down as a pass rusher one-third of the time, according to Rick Maese of the Washington Post.

Orakpo has successfully transitioned from a college defensive end to a strong-side linebacker on most downs. He is often responsible for covering the opposing tight end. This week, he takes on Jason Witten and tries to build his defensive rookie of the year candidacy. (There are a few good options.)

Some people close to Orakpo interviewed for Maese's article believe the former Longhorn would be even more successful as a full-time pass rusher. But that's a good problem for the Redskins to have. In a mostly lost year for Washington, at least the team has found a core young player on a squad needing a few more.

Washington's next coach should appreciate the help..................

Mecca was dead set the last two years that these guys were the two biggest future busts. So who is the guy this year that Mecca will say we shouldn't even talk about because he doesn't belong in the nfl.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

By telling idiots to **** off?

It's all in the tone, and milkman is more charming.

[RedThat]

Originally Posted by stevieray

....the need to be "right" around here is friggin redickulous.

Its just something I've never understood.

[OnTheWarpath58]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

thats because of the way milkman generally handles himself.

I guarantee Milkman will agree with what I'm about to post.

Milkman has done an infinite amount more berating, cussing and name-calling when it comes to his dealings with other posters than Mecca has.

Generally speaking, someone has to go off the reservation, I mean WELL past full retard before he'll start getting personal with someone.

[billay]

This is pretty lame. I don't agree with Mecca on alot of things but why call him out? Thats bullshit.

[Brock]

A lot of people had those opinions about Clady and/or Orakpo.

[keg in kc]

If your plan's to give mecca more attention, you're doing a bang-up job.

[OnTheWarpath58]

Originally Posted by Brock

A lot of people had those opinions about Clady and/or Orakpo.

Yep.

I'd be disappointed there's no "Who is this year's Brock miss?" thread if I were you.

[Direckshun]

I remember one of the most brutal days of my CP existence was after day one of 2008's Draft.

I graded the selections of Dorsey, Albert, and Flowers as a C+, and got slaughtered.

Tell me whether you'd grade it differently.

[JASONSAUTO]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I guarantee Milkman will agree with what I'm about to post.

Milkman has done an infinite amount more berating, cussing and name-calling when it comes to his dealings with other posters than Mecca has.

Generally speaking, someone has to go off the reservation, I mean WELL past full retard before he'll start getting personal with someone.

thats why my post said "generally". tribal warfare comes to mind

[Otter]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I guarantee you that if say, Keg in KC posted the exact same thing Mecca did about a subject, no one would attack him the way they do Mecca.

Keg is a nice guy with a sense of humility. When you're conversing with Keg he talks with you and not at you.

Mecca's holier than tho attitude, undeserved sense of accomplishment and making statements instead of conversation are what grate most people. Not his football takes.

[jidar]

Mecca is a fairly nice guy with a lot of football knowledge, and I'd say he's right as least as often as anyone else on this board. The problem is that he has such matter of factly way of speaking that frequently crosses the line into condescending and he rarely if ever admits when his reasoning is shaky, let alone when he's wrong. He isn't calling anyone names but it seems like everything is always so black and white for him, even things that are obviously subjective, so it's very annoying to see that happen. Drafting isn't a god damned science, it's at least half luck.

Look, two years ago Mecca listed exactly 3 top 10 projected picks in one post who he said were surefire busts and that he would be angry if we took any of them. Those three guys went on to be the first, second and third strongest candidates for rookie of the year that season. That was epic draft fail the like of which I have never seen anywhere else... so I guess my point is he and his followers should keep that in mind when they're telling everyone who the best and worst players are as if it's some kind of immutable law of football.

[OnTheWarpath58]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

I remember one of the most brutal days of my CP existence was after day one of 2008's Draft.

I graded the selections of Dorsey, Albert, and Flowers as a C+, and got slaughtered.

Tell me whether you'd grade it differently.

I still would. Those were excellent picks given the board at the time, and this is coming from someone that wasn't sold on Flowers. I was wrong.

Just because some of those players were either mis-used under Herm, are being mis-used under Haley, or have just been flat-out flushed because the new regime is trying to squeeze a square peg into a round hole - doesn't mean they were bad picks.

[JASONSAUTO]

Originally Posted by Otter

Keg is a nice guy with a sense of humility. When you're conversing with Keg he talks with you and not at you.

Mecca's holier than tho attitude, undeserved sense of accomplishment and making statements instead of conversation are what grate most people. Not his football takes.

Originally Posted by jidar

Mecca is a fairly nice guy with a lot of football knowledge, and I'd say he's right as least as often as anyone else on this board. The problem is that he has such matter of factly way of speaking that frequently crosses the line into condescending and he rarely if ever admits when his reasoning is shaky, let alone when he's wrong. He isn't calling anyone names but it seems like everything is always so black and white for him, even things that are obviously subjective, so it's very annoying to see that happen. Drafting isn't a god damned science, it's at least half luck.

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these

[Pestilence]

Originally Posted by jidar

Mecca is a fairly nice guy with a lot of football knowledge, and I'd say he's right as least as often as anyone else on this board. The problem is that he has such matter of factly way of speaking that frequently crosses the line into condescending and he rarely if ever admits when his reasoning is shaky, let alone when he's wrong. He isn't calling anyone names but it seems like everything is always so black and white for him, even things that are obviously subjective, so it's very annoying to see that happen. Drafting isn't a god damned science, it's at least half luck.

Look, two years ago Mecca listed exactly 3 top 10 projected picks in one post who he said were surefire busts and that he would be angry if we took any of them. Those three guys went on to be the first, second and third strongest candidates for rookie of the year that season. That was epic draft fail the like of which I have never seen anywhere else... so I guess my point is he and his followers should keep that in mind when they're telling everyone who the best and worst players are as if it's some kind of immutable law of football.

Who were the players and what have they done up until now?

[Reaper16]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

I remember one of the most brutal days of my CP existence was after day one of 2008's Draft.

I graded the selections of Dorsey, Albert, and Flowers as a C+, and got slaughtered.

Tell me whether you'd grade it differently.

I would grade it differently, yeah. I'm still as high on it as I was then.