who is this years Mecca miss like Clady and Orakpo...

[MGRS13]

Orakpo making immediate impact

Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on November 20, 2009 1:14 PM ET
We've criticized the Redskins front office more than a few times on PFT, so it's only fair to give them credit when they get something right.

Drafting Brian Orakpo thirteenth overall was very right.

The rookie linebacker/defensive end has seven sacks in his last seven games. That number alone is the most for any rookie since 2006, and it's amazing because he only plays with his hand down as a pass rusher one-third of the time, according to Rick Maese of the Washington Post.

Orakpo has successfully transitioned from a college defensive end to a strong-side linebacker on most downs. He is often responsible for covering the opposing tight end. This week, he takes on Jason Witten and tries to build his defensive rookie of the year candidacy. (There are a few good options.)

Some people close to Orakpo interviewed for Maese's article believe the former Longhorn would be even more successful as a full-time pass rusher. But that's a good problem for the Redskins to have. In a mostly lost year for Washington, at least the team has found a core young player on a squad needing a few more.

Washington's next coach should appreciate the help..................

Mecca was dead set the last two years that these guys were the two biggest future busts. So who is the guy this year that Mecca will say we shouldn't even talk about because he doesn't belong in the nfl.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by stevieray

including your opinions about the team.

I'm not sure I follow.

But if you're implying that I'm "down" on the current owner, front office and owner, you'd be correct.

But let's not pretend that I've always been "down" on the team. As a matter of fact, up until this year, I've been considered a "Herm apologist". When DV was head coach, I was extremely positive in my comments, even with a horrid defense.

Furthermore, I was one of the only guys who didn't want to see Herm fired, not because of his coaching abilities, but because I actually believed that for the first time in two decades, this franchise was attempting to build this team in what I've always seen as the "right" way to build a team: Youth and the draft.

There is no denying that I was always one of the more optimistic members around here.

Until April 2009.

[OnTheWarpath58]

Originally Posted by stevieray

unbelievable.

What's the problem, Steve?

It's the truth.

There are people here that will argue a post more because of who posted it, than the content of the post.

I guarantee you that if say, Keg in KC posted the exact same thing Mecca did about a subject, no one would attack him the way they do Mecca.

You don't like him, I know this. That's between you and him.

But he takes a lot of unwarranted shit because of his username, not because of the content of his posts.

Hell, Milkman often makes the same points, but you don't see "Milkman was wrong" threads pop up regularly.

[OnTheWarpath58]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

This entire thread is about Sanchez, anyway.

Go to a ****ing Jets board if you don't like our team.

[Blick]

I thought Orakpo would be good.

This year's Mecca miss...Taylor Mays.

[OnTheWarpath58]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I'm not sure I follow.

But if you're implying that I'm "down" on the current owner, front office and owner, you'd be correct.

But let's not pretend that I've always been "down" on the team. As a matter of fact, up until this year, I've been considered a "Herm apologist". When DV was head coach, I was extremely positive in my comments, even with a horrid defense.

Furthermore, I was one of the only guys who didn't want to see Herm fired, not because of his coaching abilities, but because I actually believed that for the first time in two decades, this franchise was attempting to build this team in what I've always seen as the "right" way to build a team: Youth and the draft.

There is no denying that I was always one of the more optimistic members around here.

Until April 2009.

That sums me up as well.

[SensibleChiefsfan]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Zach knows a shit-ton more about photography than I do, and it doesn't bother me to say it.

Phobia has forgotten more about construction than I'll ever know, but it doesn't bother me.

Mecca knows more about football and the draft than almost (if not) everyone here, but some people have a huge ****ing inferiority complex about it.

The football knowledge we have access to from a few posters is top-notch, IMO, but instead of people taking advantage and learning something from it, they'd rather act butthurt that they don't have that level of expertise.

Sorry, but the football 'expertise' on here is lacking.

The fact that it passes as expertise by some proves their ignorance.

Now, Mecca's football opinions are more credible than most on here, but he isn't an expert. He is a guy who follows the league that bullsh!ts pretty well.

He is a typical fan who thinks he knows more than he does.

[JASONSAUTO]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

As someone who has butted heads with him more than anyone here, I can tell you with 100% certainty that if he's called you (generally speaking) stupid or a moron, it's because you've brought nothing to the conversation.

If your opinion is based solely on emotion, and not rational thought, you're probably going to be ridiculed for it.

Bring a take, and be able to back it up.

Otherwise, if you say something stupid, with nothing to back up your claims other than "PIOLI" - you're probably going to get laughed at.

see there's the problem this same stuff happened BEFORE pioli. ok? and yes he;s called more than one person a moron just because HE didnt agree with what the person was saying. not because that person wasnt bringing a take.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

Sorry, but the football 'expertise' on here is lacking.

The fact that it passes as expertise by some proves their ignorance.

Now, Mecca's football opinions are more credible than most on here, but he isn't an expert. He is a guy who follows the league that bullsh!ts pretty well.

He is a typical fan who thinks he knows more than he does.

Expert? Expertise? Who is using these terms?

Some folks are more knowledgeable about certain subjects than others, doesn't make anyone an expert.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

HOLTZCLAW FTW!!!!!

Hey asshole, Holtzclaw will catch on.

Just as soon as someone signs him. Again. And don't cut him.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

Sorry, but the football 'expertise' on here is lacking.

The fact that it passes as expertise by some proves their ignorance.

Now, Mecca's football opinions are more credible than most on here, but he isn't an expert. He is a guy who follows the league that bullsh!ts pretty well.

He is a typical fan who thinks he knows more than he does.

SenselessChiefsfan strikes again

[JASONSAUTO]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

What's the problem, Steve?

It's the truth.

There are people here that will argue a post more because of who posted it, than the content of the post.

I guarantee you that if say, Keg in KC posted the exact same thing Mecca did about a subject, no one would attack him the way they do Mecca.

You don't like him, I know this. That's between you and him.

But he takes a lot of unwarranted shit because of his username, not because of the content of his posts.

Hell, Milkman often makes the same points, but you don't see "Milkman was wrong" threads pop up regularly.

thats because of the way milkman generally handles himself.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

thats because of the way milkman generally handles himself.

By telling idiots to **** off?

[OnTheWarpath58]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

see there's the problem this same stuff happened BEFORE pioli. ok? and yes he;s called more than one person a moron just because HE didnt agree with what the person was saying. not because that person wasnt bringing a take.

Feel free to post that exchange, I'd be curious to see who agrees with Mecca that the poster in question deserved to be called a moron.

And invoking Pioli is new, sure. The same general "take" has been here forever.

If you like, you can call it the "We'll be better because I HOPE we'll be better, not because I have any evidence that would lead someone to believe we'll be better" argument.

[Rooster]

Originally Posted by stevieray

....the need to be "right" around here is friggin redickulous.

Exactly. I would bet these same people were bed wetters.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Expert? Expertise? Who is using these terms?

Some folks are more knowledgeable about certain subjects than others, doesn't make anyone an expert.

I take fully responsibility for missing the final word of OTWP's post. Naturally, I believe the gist of his comment has been taken out of context, but my initial mistake stands.