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Old 01-09-2016, 11:11 AM  
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Old 01-09-2016, 11:47 AM   #2
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I've heard of all off those except Virtuosic.

I've also never seen Djent called Djent/Progressive.
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Old 01-09-2016, 11:57 AM   #3
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Industrial had dark themes long before the 2000s. NIN is the premier industrial band and Trent's music has always tended towards the dark.
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Old 01-09-2016, 02:49 PM   #4
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Industrial had dark themes long before the 2000s. NIN is the premier industrial band and Trent's music has always tended towards the dark.
I think most industrial fans laugh when people call NIN industrial, but regardless, your point stands about the genre having embraced dark themes since its inception.

EDIT: Fir the record, I love NIN, but they've always been Industrial Lite.
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Old 01-09-2016, 02:54 PM   #5
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Industrial had dark themes long before the 2000s.
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Old 01-09-2016, 02:55 PM   #6
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Industrial had dark themes long before the 2000s. NIN is the premier industrial band and Trent's music has always tended towards the dark.
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Old 01-09-2016, 03:15 PM   #7
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I've heard of all off those except Virtuosic.

I've also never seen Djent called Djent/Progressive.
What's your take on some of the bands listed? Favorites?

Sadly, I'm more of a mainstream music fan than I would like to admit. About as far out as I get so far has been bands like Within Temptation and Otep, and even then I don't have catalogues memorized or anything...
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Old 01-09-2016, 03:20 PM   #8
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I was pointing out that Industrial has always had dark themes. It wasn't something that just came up in the 2000s.
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Old 01-09-2016, 03:23 PM   #9
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What's your take on some of the bands listed? Favorites?

Sadly, I'm more of a mainstream music fan than I would like to admit. About as far out as I get so far has been bands like Within Temptation and Otep, and even then I don't have catalogues memorized or anything...
They are missing some real heavyweights in the categories particularly Power Metal. Missing Sabaton, Blind Guardian, Gamma Ray, Helloween, and Iron Savior for Power Metal.

I would probably throw Ghost into the symphonic metal category but they usually span several categories.
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Old 01-11-2016, 11:43 PM   #10
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I was pointing out that Industrial has always had dark themes. It wasn't something that just came up in the 2000s.
Fear Factory and Ministry were doing it long before the 90s. Rammstein borrows heavily from Industrial.
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Old 01-11-2016, 11:45 PM   #11
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They are missing some real heavyweights in the categories particularly Power Metal. Missing Sabaton, Blind Guardian, Gamma Ray, Helloween, and Iron Savior for Power Metal.

I would probably throw Ghost into the symphonic metal category but they usually span several categories.
Sabaton is in its own subgenre I like to call War Metal. They are like the Gordon Lightfoot of metal singing about WWII.

When I think symphonic metal, I think of the female-led bands like Nightwish, Epica, Delain, etc. Ghost does reach some very high notes though. I will be seeing them in May at Rock on the Range.
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Old 01-11-2016, 11:46 PM   #12
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I've heard of all off those except Virtuosic.

I've also never seen Djent called Djent/Progressive.
Bands like Meshuggah don't seem necessarily progressive. However, a band like Periphery does sound more progressive to me.
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My favorite on there is probably MeloDeath at this point. In Flames has to be in there. Children of Bodom doesn't seem to fit that well because they don't really use clean vocals much, although they are very good. I really like Scar Symmetry. Their vocalist is in a band called Solution .45 that I like a lot right now. I didn't go through the list in total but seemed to be missing Soilwork, another great melodeath band out of Sweden.
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Old 01-11-2016, 11:53 PM   #14
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Sabaton is in its own subgenre I like to call War Metal. They are like the Gordon Lightfoot of metal singing about WWII.
Maiden has been singing about war since Run for the Hills. They are a power metal band that just replaces the fantastical with the historical. Just like Iron Savior and Gamma Ray lean toward the Sci-Fi.

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When I think symphonic metal, I think of the female-led bands like Nightwish, Epica, Delain, etc. Ghost does reach some very high notes though. I will be seeing them in May at Rock on the Range.
It is more their arrangements. Like I said, it is hard to pin down their style since they change it up quite a bit.
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Old 01-12-2016, 12:44 AM   #15
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Fear Factory and Ministry were doing it long before the 90s. Rammstein borrows heavily from Industrial.
Fear Factory didn't exist before the '90s and the certainly weren't remotely industrial. Ministry borrowed from industrial and were proginators of the industrial metal scene, but again, not really industrial. Throbbing Gristle was industrial. Caberet Voltaire was industrial. Einsturzende Neubauten were industrial. All great bands, though hard to listen to at times.
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