Alternate Reality Game 1: Chiefs

[Rain Man]

The original post is below in blue, but let's summarize it here based on the past few years.

1. If you're a new player, start with the current Chiefs roster. If you've been playing for a while you'll have your own evolved roster.

2. You can add any free agent that the Chiefs add.

3. You lose any free agent that the Chiefs lose, but only if they were on the Chiefs' roster when you began playing.

4. You can accept or reject any trade the Chiefs make as long as any Chiefs player involved is currently on your roster.

5. You do not get players that the Chiefs draft. You draft your own players, using the same draft picks that the Chiefs have.

6. You can trade down ONE time before the draft or after the draft. If you trade down before the draft, you get up to full value for your pick according to this chart: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft0...ory?id=2410670. If you trade down after the draft, the value of the picks you trade must be discounted by at least 35 percent. Any trade down must involve only the picks of one NFL team, and you cannot receive more than two picks more than you give up. (In other words, if you trade away one draft pick you cannot pick up more than three in return.) The other team's picks also must be picks that they held prior to the opening of the draft.

6. You can trade up ONE time before the draft or after the draft. If you trade up before the draft, you get up to full value for your pick according to this chart: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft0...ory?id=2410670. If you trade up after the draft, the value of the picks you trade must be discounted by at least 15 percent. Any trade up must involve only the picks of one NFL team. The other team's picks also must be picks that they held prior to the opening of the draft.

7. By the beginning of the season, you must reduce your total roster to include only 53 players.



Original post: You can ignore this now.


Okay, having tested the waters I think we've got enough interest in this. There will be two other games as well that I'll announce soon.

The concept of this game is to, over a series of years, see which Chiefsplanet members are best at building a team. We can have an unlimited number of players, and this game will take very little time on your part - just a little bit of time and some voting.

Here's how the game will work.

Step 1. First, you have to locate your team in a city. It cannot be in a city that has an existing NFL team, so you must pick from the following cities, which are the largest cities that don't have an NFL team, but ensuring that there's at least one city in every state. If we have more than 100 players I'll add to this list. (List deleted for brevity. If you start playing, just pick a city.)


Step 2. Once the NFL draft is complete on April 26, owners will select players who were available with each Chiefs selection (i.e., do their own draft) and add these people to their roster. If the Chiefs make any draft day trades, the player may choose to accept or reject the trade and act accordingly.

Step 3. After training camp, each owner selects 40 (Edited up from 35) Chiefs players who are "their" players who will make up their roster. The remaining 13 positions will be filled by a generic "scrub".

Step 4. At the end of the season, the person will provide an overview of who started at each position over the course of the year, providing the number of starts at each position by each player. Edit: the rules for doing so are discussed in Post 285.

Step 5. At the end of the season, we will have a Survivor-style vote among the general Chiefsplanet population to determine who had the best team that year, including impacts of injuries and other issues.

Step 6. In Year 2 (and beyond), the player starts with his/her core of 40 players, adds new players through the draft, and can then pick another core of players from the following pool: their 40-player core, new drafted players, and any new free agent that joins the Chiefs

If the Chiefs make a trade that includes draft picks, each owner can choose to accept or reject that trade on their own team. If the Chiefs make a trade involving a player on the Chiefs roster, the owner can accept that trade ONLY if his/her own roster includes that player.

There will be no trades between owners, and no implications of the salary cap.

I realize that in the first season we'll have a lot of players with similar rosters, but they'll diverge over time and that's where it'll get interesting.

So...if you're interested in playing, claim your city and name your team.


Teams As Of Post #113:


Alaska (Anchorage) Watchmen (cdcox)
Austin [name to be determined] (Hound333)
Billings Snake Filets (KCChiefsman)
Cheyenne Buckshot Cheneys (banyon)
Des Moines [yet to be named] (Hoover)
Duluth Normans (Rain Man)
El Paso The Courvoisier (DeezNutz)
Fargo Rape (SNR)
Fort Wayne Dancers (Chiefs=Good)
Fresno Refugees (Adam)
Harrisburg Beer Farts (Otter)
Hartford Manticores (Crush)
Honolulu Craters (Sully)
Knoxville Nukes (Patteeu)
Las Vegas Hitmen (Bowser)
Little Rock Reapers (doomy3)
Los Angeles Cobras (chiefscafan)
Madison Beers (Spicy McHaggis)
Memphis Jackals (Ultra Peanut)
Oklahoma City Boom (Sanka)
Omaha Streakers (speak24)
Orlando Beakers (ChiefsCountry)
Reno Sheriff Department (MWagg72)
San Antonio Scorpions (truebigdog)
Scranton Paper Packers (bdeg)
Sioux Falls Slackers (pestilenceaf23)
Spokane [yet to be named] (Mr. Flopnuts)
Springfield (Missouri) Cashew Chickens (H5N1)
Wichita [yet to be named] (jwazzie)
Winston-Salem Warlocks (ArrowheadHawk)
Worcester Sauce (unothadeal)

Added Rules and Reminders:

1. Remember that you can draft undrafted rookies, so you don't have to select only guys who were drafted.

2. Anyone can change their rookie draft selections at any time, UNTIL we reach ten days before training camp. At that point, all picks will be locked in.

3. Each team can do ONE trade of draft picks if they like, using this chart:http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft0...ory?id=2410670. However, if you're trading up, you have to pay 15 percent more than the stated value of the picks you're obtaining. If you're trading down, your pick's value will be discounted by 35 percent.

For example, if you want to trade up from the 20th pick in the 1st to the 10th pick, you can see from the chart that the 20th pick is worth 850 points. The 10th pick is normally 1,300 points, but by paying 15 percent more, it will cost you 1.15*1,300, or 1,495 points.

For example, if you want to trade down from the 20th pick in the 1st and pick up the 10th pick in the 2nd, your 20th pick would normally be worth 850 points, but in this game it will be worth 553 points. The 10th pick in the 2nd is worth 480 points, so you can get 73 points back from the other team.

You can do only ONE draft-pick trade up and ONE draft-pick trade down, and in each case you can only trade with one other team for their own picks. (In other words, you couldn't take the 73 points in the above example from a third team.)

[wazu]

Since we are on the eve of camp I am just going to say that I will take the Chiefs draft exactly as ***** did it this year.

[chiefscafan]

So are we doing this again this year?

[chiefscafan]

So are we allowed to take people that were dropped from Thier teams??

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by Wazu

Since we are on the eve of camp I am just going to say that I will take the Chiefs draft exactly as ***** did it this year.

Cool. Works for me.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by chiefscafan

So are we allowed to take people that were dropped from Thier teams??

Nope. We don't do free agents in this game. Your roster will composed of:

People on your team the previous year
People you draft
Any new Chiefs that were signed as free agents and were not on the roster the previous year.

[chiefscafan]

still working on my roster close only five spots left we go to 53 this year right?

[Rain Man]

Uh-oh. I forgot to do my roster cuts to get to 53 people. I only have to cut four guys.

My final roster is shown below.

Red are my new rookies.
Blue are street free agents picked up so far by the real Chiefs.

QB
Mark Sanchez (Jets) - 16/16/16
Jimmy Clausen (Panthers) - 0/10/13
Brodie Croyle - 0/1/16
Tyler Palko

HB
Jamaal Charles - 6/6/16
Thomas Jones - 10/10/16
C.J. Spiller. (Bills) 0/1/14
Jackie Battle - 0/0/16

FB
Tim Castille, FB 10/4/10


WR
Dwayne Bowe - 16/16/16
Chris Chambers, WR - 13/7/13
Derrick Williams (Lions) - 3/1/7
Jeremy Horne - 0/0/3
Kevin Curtis
Leonard Hankerson (Redskins)
Greg Salas (Rams)

TE
Tony Gonzalez (Falcons) - 16/16/16
Leonard Pope, 6/6/16 (starting as blocker)


OT
Branden Albert - 15/15/15
Ryan O'Callaghan - 11/1/11
Lee Ziemba (Panthers)
Alex Boone (49ers) - 0/0/1


G
Brian Waters - 16/16/16
Lilja, Ryan - 15/15/15
Jason Pinkston (Browns)
Wade Smith - 7/1/16
Bruce Campbell (Raiders) - 0/0/10
Duke Robinson (Panthers) - 0/0/0


C
Wiegmann, Casey - 16/16/16
Rodney Hudson (Chiefs)


K
(Scrub) - 16/16
Alex Henery (Eagles)

P
Dustin Colquitt - 16/16/16

FS
Kendrick Lewis - 10/10/10
Jarrad Page (Patriots) 9/1/10 (6 as FS, 3 as SS)

SS
Reshad Jones (Dolphins) - 13/1/13
Shiloh Keo (Texans)

CB
Brandon Flowers - 15/15/15
Brandon Carr - 16/16/16
D.J. Moore (Bears) 1/0/16
Travis Daniels, CB - 0/0/16

OLB
Rey Maualuga (Bengals) - 15/15/15
Dekoda Watson (Buccaneers) - 15/1/15
Andy Studebaker - 2/0/16
Charlie Anderson
Eric Bakhtiari
Justin Cole
Chris Carter (Steelers)
Bruce Miller (49ers)

ILB
Derrick Johnson - 16/16/16
Demorrio Williams - 0/0/16

DE
Tamba Hali - 16/16/16
Wallace Gilberry 16/2/16
Alex Carrington (Bills) 0/0/9
Da'Quan Bowers (Buccaneers)

DT
Glenn Dorsey - 16/16/16
Ron Edwards - 8/15/15
Smith, Shaun - 8/10/16
Myron Pryor (Patriots) 0/2/9
Anthony Toribio
Lawrence Guy (Packers)[/quote]

I'm cutting:

LB Mark Simoneau
WR Chandler Williams
TE Cody Slate
ILB Micah Johnson

[wazu]

We never really followed up on this. Would be fun to piece back together and keep going since the start aligns perfectly with *****'s beginning. Everybody up for putting their draft together this year? If we miss this it's over.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by wazu

We never really followed up on this. Would be fun to piece back together and keep going since the start aligns perfectly with *****'s beginning. Everybody up for putting their draft together this year? If we miss this it's over.

I certainly plan to keep going. This is fun for me. We don't have enough players to compete with each other, but it's fun for me to see what team each of us puts together.

[wazu]

Question: Can you please remind me what options do we have this year regarding free agents that walk? I'm mainly thinking about Brandon Carr and Wallace Gilberry. I think Carr is the first real star we have let walk since *****'s reign began.

I've been trying to get my roster organized again. My big misses so far have been Kendrick Lewis and Tony Moeaki. I know there are other players who I'll add from the existing Chiefs roster this year provided they aren't people I opted not to draft, but below is what it looks like.

QB
Mark Sanchez (Jets)
Brady Quinn
Ricky Stanzi

HB
Jamaal Charles
Peyton Hillis

FB
Tim Castille
Shane Bannon

WR
Dwayne Bowe
Steve Breaston
Jonathan Baldwin
Dezmon Briscoe (Buccaneers)

TE
Kevin Boss
Chase Coffman (Bucs)
Jake O'Connell

OT
Branden Albert
Eric Winston
Selvish Capers (Giants)

G
Lilja, Ryan
Jon Asamoah
Rodney Hudson

C
Matt Tennant (Saints)

K
Ryan Succop

P
Dustin Colquitt

S
Eric Berry

CB
Brandon Flowers
Brandon Carr
Perrish Cox (49ers)
Stanford Routt
Jalil Brown

OLB
Tamba Hali
Justin Houston
Clint Sintim (Giants)
Sergio Kindle (Ravens)
Ricky Sapp (Jets)

ILB
Derrick Johnson
Jovan Belcher

DE
Glenn Dorsey
Allen Bailey
Amon Gordon
Wallace Gilberry

NT
Terrence Cody (Ravens)
Cam Thomas (Chargers)
Jerrell Powe

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by wazu

Question: Can you please remind me what options do we have this year regarding free agents that walk? I'm mainly thinking about Brandon Carr and Wallace Gilberry. I think Carr is the first real star we have let walk since *****'s reign began.

I gotta remember the rules. I think that if they walk directly to another team as a free agent, you can't keep them. They're gone. But if they're cut, you can choose to keep them. So you can't keep Carr, but since Gilberry didn't leave for another team, you can keep him.

Now, I've got to figure out my draft. I keep investing picks in QBs and it's not getting me anywhere.

[Rain Man]

My team needs are:

Upgrade at QB
Depth at HB
Desperate need at WR
Heir at TE, and depth
Probably RT
Upgrade FS
Upgrade SS
Desperate need at OLB
Possible need at DE
Moderate need at DT

My team is a mess. This is harder than it looks.

[Rain Man]

Free agent pickups that you can add to your roster:

Brandon Bair - DE
Mikail Baker - DB
Josh Bellamy - WR
Tim Biere - TE
Kevin Boss - TE
Steve Breaston - WR
Rob Bruggeman - C
Caleb Campbell - LB
Justin Cheadle - OL
Shaun Draughn - HB
Nate Eachus - RB
Jean Fanor - DB
Chandler Fenner - DB
Taylor Gentry - FB
Amon Gordon - DT
Tysyn Hartman - DB
Dexter Heyman - LB
Peyton Hillis - FB
Cam Holland - OL
Ethan Johnson - DE
Brandon Kinnie - WR
Steve Maneri - TE
Zeke Markshausen - WR
Kyle McCarthy - S
David Mims - OT
Jamar Newsome - WR
Terrance Parks - DB
Luke Patterson - DL
Jacques Reeves - DB
Stanford Routt - CB
Brandon Siler - ILB
Matt Szymanski - K
Neiko Thorpe - DB
Eric Winston - RT

You can also add anyone else who gets signed in camp. If they join the Chiefs as a free agent, they're on your training camp roster as well. If they make trades, you choose to accept or reject the trade.

[Rain Man]

My initial training camp roster is shown below.

Adding in the free agents makes my picture look much better. Now my team needs are:

Upgrade at QB (despite heavy investment - sigh)
Depth/star at WR
Heir at TE
Upgrade FS
Upgrade SS
Desperate need at OLB
Possible need at DE



QB
Mark Sanchez (Jets)
Jimmy Clausen (Panthers)
Brodie Croyle
Tyler Palko

HB
Jamaal Charles
C.J. Spiller. (Bills)
Jackie Battle
Thomas Jones
Shaun Draughn
Nate Eachus

FB
Peyton Hillis
Taylor Gentry
Tim Castille


WR
Dwayne Bowe
Steve Breaston - WR
Greg Salas (Rams)
Leonard Hankerson (Redskins)
Jeremy Horne
Chris Chambers
Derrick Williams (Lions)
Kevin Curtis
Brandon Kinnie - WR
Zeke Markshausen - WR
Jamar Newsome - WR
Josh Bellamy - WR


TE
Tony Gonzalez (Falcons)
Kevin Boss - TE
Leonard Pope
Steve Maneri - TE
Tim Biere - TE

OT
Branden Albert
Eric Winston - RT
Bruce Campbell (Raiders)
David Mims - OT
Ryan O'Callaghan
Lee Ziemba (Panthers)
Alex Boone (49ers)


G
Brian Waters
Lilja, Ryan
Jason Pinkston (Browns)
Wade Smith
Duke Robinson (Panthers)
Justin Cheadle - OL
Cam Holland - OL

C
Rodney Hudson (Chiefs)
Wiegmann, Casey
Rob Bruggeman - C

K
Alex Henery (Eagles)
Matt Szymanski - K

P
Dustin Colquitt

FS
Kendrick Lewis
Kyle McCarthy - S
Jarrad Page (Patriots)

SS
Reshad Jones (Dolphins)
Shiloh Keo (Texans)

CB
Brandon Flowers
Stanford Routt - CB
D.J. Moore (Bears)
Travis Daniels
Jacques Reeves - DB
Mikail Baker - DB
Tysyn Hartman - DB
Jean Fanor - DB
Terrance Parks - DB
Chandler Fenner - DB
Neiko Thorpe - DB

OLB
Rey Maualuga (Bengals)
Dekoda Watson (Buccaneers)
Andy Studebaker
Chris Carter (Steelers)
Bruce Miller (49ers)
Caleb Campbell - LB
Dexter Heyman - LB
Charlie Anderson
Eric Bakhtiari
Justin Cole

ILB
Derrick Johnson
Brandon Siler - ILB
Demorrio Williams

DE
Tamba Hali
Da'Quan Bowers (Buccaneers)
Alex Carrington (Bills)
Wallace Gilberry
Luke Patterson - DL
Ethan Johnson - DE

DT
Glenn Dorsey
Amon Gordon - DT
Ron Edwards
Smith, Shaun
Myron Pryor (Patriots)
Anthony Toribio
Lawrence Guy (Packers)

[Rain Man]

Okay, people, it's draft time.

You get your seven picks below, and IF you still have Jarrad Page you can trade him for the 238th pick and get that pick in the 7th round. Otherwise, you don't get that pick.


Round Pick In Round Total Selection
1 11 11
2 12 44
3 11 74
4 12 107
5 11 146
6 12 182
7 11 218
7 31 238 if you trade away Jarrad Page.