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Old 10-05-2008, 08:31 AM  
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The flawed logic of Mizzou fans

You say tradition doesn't matter, yet you're so excited about ending your 30-year losing streak in Lincoln.

You say Bo Pelini sucks, yet Gary Pinkel was 9-14 during his first two seasons at Mizzou. Many Mizzou fans wanted him fired.

Something doesn't add up.

I'm not crying in my beer over Nebraska's loss last night. I told you how the game would unfold. I don't feel your pain. You can't get it all back in two years.

Tradition is the reason you're so excited. You want what Nebraska, Texas and Oklahoma have. You are getting a small taste of it. A national title and a Heisman this season would only be one step. You must sustain similar success over decades.

I think Kansas State and Colorado have more tradition than Mizzou. K-State recently won a conference title. Colorado has a national title and a Heisman.

Pelini will need several seasons to turn around the program - just like Gary Pinkel and Mark Mangino needed. Nebraska has no talent on either side of the ball. The defense isn't fast enough to blitz effectively. The offense is overrated, and the play calling sucks. I hate some of their pass plays.

It's a process. Instant gratification wasn't going to happen. You know that from your own experience.

Last year's Huskers gave up and made tons of mistakes. This year's Huskers make mistakes because they're too aggressive. I'll take the aggression.

Callahan never would've apologized to the state like Pelini did last night.

Think about the things I have mentioned here.
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Old 10-06-2008, 03:13 PM   #241
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OU is happy to talk about their past. However, I wouldn't trade the Huskers' tradition for the Sooners'. They can keep their probation violations.

I'm not emphasizing tradition because NU is down. The point is Mizzou isn't as great as their fans think. Mizzou fans made Saturday's game more dramatic than it was going to be. Right now, Nebraska is where Mizzou usually has been.
God, will you ever shut up?

I actually think you're enough of a bitch to play defense for the Huskers. You should call Dicknose and see if he can fit you with a Blackskirt.
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Old 10-06-2008, 03:18 PM   #242
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The point is Mizzou isn't as great as their fans think. Mizzou fans made Saturday's game more dramatic than it was going to be. Right now, Nebraska is where Mizzou usually has been.
How great do we think Mizzou is? I have posted several times that I think OSU will give us a good scare this Saturday. I've noted that we could very well lose at Texas. How is Mizzou less-great than that? What metric are you attempting to use?
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Old 10-06-2008, 03:19 PM   #243
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Stop living in the past...yeah great they won in 1997, no one cares now....back it up by being the powerhouse again. Goodluck getting a lawrence phillips and tommie frazier to run the option with success now.
I think Phillips will be out of jail in 10 years or so.
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Old 10-06-2008, 03:20 PM   #244
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I don't feel like the different sides of this discussion are actually making the arguments the other side feels it is.

I don't think most Mizzou fans are trying to convince anyone we have the tradition of some of the programs listed (maybe I am missing something?) but obviously have no problem feeling like we have the quality team we have.
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Old 10-06-2008, 03:52 PM   #245
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I don't want "tradition." I want to win every game going forward. OU doesn't sit around and talk about the past; they want to win now. "Tradition" is only as good as the support/players it helps you to accumulate. NU has fans and facilities due to their tradition. MU has facilities and talent and is rebuilding the fanbase, tradition or no.

I would guess that T-Bone's $ will provide enough "tradition" that OSU will have facilities, talent, and fans in short order. Perhaps they can even get a coach.
Uhhh OU does win now last time I checked.
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Old 10-06-2008, 03:56 PM   #246
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Uhhh OU does win now last time I checked.
You are being overly dramatic about all of this.
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Old 10-06-2008, 04:02 PM   #247
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OU is happy to talk about their past. However, I wouldn't trade the Huskers' tradition for the Sooners'. They can keep their probation violations.

I'm not emphasizing tradition because NU is down. The point is Mizzou isn't as great as their fans think. Mizzou fans made Saturday's game more dramatic than it was going to be. Right now, Nebraska is where Mizzou usually has been.
Tradition.......so you got that going for ya

Who gives a ****! Got your junk handed to you, then come on here throwing around a tradition card? Hope the traditions comfort you through your time of powder puff football. Yes MU fans wanted to go there and win, kinda the ****ing point, ain't it there Opie. Truly a dumb thread.
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Old 10-06-2008, 04:45 PM   #248
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Old 10-06-2008, 05:14 PM   #249
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I don't want "tradition." I want to win every game going forward. OU doesn't sit around and talk about the past; they want to win now. "Tradition" is only as good as the support/players it helps you to accumulate. NU has fans and facilities due to their tradition. MU has facilities and talent and is rebuilding the fanbase, tradition or no.
I would guess that T-Bone's $ will provide enough "tradition" that OSU will have facilities, talent, and fans in short order. Perhaps they can even get a coach.
MU has some boosters with pretty deep pockets also. Which is a good thing for ANY program that wants to win
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Old 10-06-2008, 05:49 PM   #252
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Those are hardly traditional powerhouses. They weren't good enough for a long enough period of time before they disappeared.
What's a long enough period? 20yrs? 30yrs? 40yrs?

You do realize it's already been 7 years since NU has even beat a ranked team right?
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Old 10-06-2008, 05:52 PM   #253
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They have been playing football since 1890. Nebraska competed with Notre Dame in the days of Knute Rockne.
So Harvard & Princeton have more tradition?
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Old 10-06-2008, 06:00 PM   #254
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Amazing...Nebraska fans think it's their right to be the best...like I said before:

Nebraska is Iowa State with tradition.
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Old 10-06-2008, 06:52 PM   #255
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OU is happy to talk about their past. However, I wouldn't trade the Huskers' tradition for the Sooners'. They can keep their probation violations.

I'm not emphasizing tradition because NU is down. The point is Mizzou isn't as great as their fans think. Mizzou fans made Saturday's game more dramatic than it was going to be. Right now, Nebraska is where Mizzou usually has been.
Oklahoma's past has a positive impact on their present and future. That's the value of tradition. If you can't parlay tradition into continued success, it's not worth a damned thing.

Missouri is a great team, and any objective observer puts them squarely in the middle of the National Championship hunt. Clearly Mizzou doesn't have the tradition of Nebraska , but that doesn't mean that they aren't a better program. Clearly Mizzou is light-years ahead of Nebraska. Do you honestly believe that Nebraska will have more success over the next 10 years than Missouri?

Missouri has the enormous built-in advantage that comes with being the only D-I school in a top 10 state in terms of D-I players coming out of high school. They have a coach who has proven that he can identify talent, keep it in state, and supplement that talent with out of state players when needed.

Nebraska, on the other hand, is turning into a program where coaches go to die. They have no in state talent to speak of, and they used to make a living off of pulling players out of surrounding states including Missouri. Guess what? Those days are over. Why would a player from Missouri choose to go to Nebraska? Tradition? Ask the Husker players what they thought of tradition after Chase Daniel pulled down their pants and made them march in the Homecoming parade. Do you think that Saturday's game did anything other than shovel dirt on Nebraska's grave?
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