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Old 10-05-2008, 08:31 AM  
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The flawed logic of Mizzou fans

You say tradition doesn't matter, yet you're so excited about ending your 30-year losing streak in Lincoln.

You say Bo Pelini sucks, yet Gary Pinkel was 9-14 during his first two seasons at Mizzou. Many Mizzou fans wanted him fired.

Something doesn't add up.

I'm not crying in my beer over Nebraska's loss last night. I told you how the game would unfold. I don't feel your pain. You can't get it all back in two years.

Tradition is the reason you're so excited. You want what Nebraska, Texas and Oklahoma have. You are getting a small taste of it. A national title and a Heisman this season would only be one step. You must sustain similar success over decades.

I think Kansas State and Colorado have more tradition than Mizzou. K-State recently won a conference title. Colorado has a national title and a Heisman.

Pelini will need several seasons to turn around the program - just like Gary Pinkel and Mark Mangino needed. Nebraska has no talent on either side of the ball. The defense isn't fast enough to blitz effectively. The offense is overrated, and the play calling sucks. I hate some of their pass plays.

It's a process. Instant gratification wasn't going to happen. You know that from your own experience.

Last year's Huskers gave up and made tons of mistakes. This year's Huskers make mistakes because they're too aggressive. I'll take the aggression.

Callahan never would've apologized to the state like Pelini did last night.

Think about the things I have mentioned here.
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Old 10-06-2008, 01:49 PM   #226
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Nice and dandy but wtf have they done lately?
Thats cool......what the **** has MU done in the last 100 yrs or so up to last season?

Listen I'm happy that MU is doing well and has a NC calibur team, And I do think the only team that can beat them is OU.....maybe TX, but to say they have program tradition such as "well known by most Americans" football schools like OU TX Bama, FLA, OSU, NEB, Mich, FSU, Miami etc is just silly.

I understand MU fans are excited because really they've never tasted success in any relative sport. Not trying to talk shit but it's the truth. But some people on here are just ****ing stupid about it.
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Old 10-06-2008, 01:56 PM   #227
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Here are some examples that disprove your contention:

1960's:
Minnesota
Purdue
Mississippi
Michigan State

1970's:
Houston
Arizona State
Pittsburgh
Stanford
NC State

1980's:
Iowa
SMU
Texas A&M

1990's:
Texas A&M
Kansas State
Syracuse
Washington
Those are hardly traditional powerhouses. They weren't good enough for a long enough period of time before they disappeared.
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Old 10-06-2008, 01:58 PM   #228
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I understand MU fans are excited because really they've never tasted success in any relative sport. Not trying to talk shit but it's the truth. But some people on here are just f***ing stupid about it.
What is the truth? Exactly what point are you attempting to make? About what are you suggesting that people are stupid?
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Old 10-06-2008, 01:59 PM   #229
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I know Nebraska has had tradition since Bob Devaney took over the program in 1962 followed by Tom Osborne...what were they before that? Do you guys realize that if Osborne hadn't taken over the program that you guys would be just like Kansas State is now? Scary huh?
They have been playing football since 1890. Nebraska competed with Notre Dame in the days of Knute Rockne.
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Old 10-06-2008, 02:04 PM   #230
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Misery is SCREWED after this year. Their inbred fans better enjoy it this year cause all their star players will be in the NFL next season.

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Old 10-06-2008, 02:10 PM   #231
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What is the truth? Exactly what point are you attempting to make? About what are you suggesting that people are stupid?
Because the one thing that got all of the MU fans panties in a bunch is the fact the MU wants what NEB OU and TX have.....thats football tradition.....MU doesn't have that and every MU fan starts crying and stating otherwise with their retarded arguments.
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As far as recruits not knowing the traditions at places like Nebraska and Notre Dame? I don't know why they wouldn't.

About recruiting rankings: I think Rivals.com and Scout.com are frauds. I don't believe them. Many of Callahan's 4-star and 5-star recruits aren't very good. You saw several of them Saturday on defense, especially the seniors. Tom Osborne brings in the country's best defensive coach, and they still stink.
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Old 10-06-2008, 02:25 PM   #233
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MU just wants to win, the same as any other team. Saying they want this BS "100 years of tradition" crap that doesn't mean anything at all is pretty stupid. It's basically the same thing that I said last year when MU fans were bagging on KU for being a "tradition since September". That garbage means nothing. People are going to need to start pulling their heads out of their asses and realize that college football has changed dramatically in the past 10 years. It doesn't matter who you used to be, it only matters what you are doing now.
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MU just wants to win, the same as any other team. Saying they want this BS "100 years of tradition" crap that doesn't mean anything at all is pretty stupid. It's basically the same thing that I said last year when MU fans were bagging on KU for being a "tradition since September". That garbage means nothing. People are going to need to start pulling their heads out of their asses and realize that college football has changed dramatically in the past 10 years. It doesn't matter who you used to be, it only matters what you are doing now.
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Old 10-06-2008, 02:49 PM   #235
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Because the one thing that got all of the MU fans panties in a bunch is the fact the MU wants what NEB OU and TX have.....thats football tradition.....MU doesn't have that and every MU fan starts crying and stating otherwise with their retarded arguments.
I don't want "tradition." I want to win every game going forward. OU doesn't sit around and talk about the past; they want to win now. "Tradition" is only as good as the support/players it helps you to accumulate. NU has fans and facilities due to their tradition. MU has facilities and talent and is rebuilding the fanbase, tradition or no.

I would guess that T-Bone's $ will provide enough "tradition" that OSU will have facilities, talent, and fans in short order. Perhaps they can even get a coach.
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We may not have a lot of past tradition, but we have started a new one the past couple of years. This one includes beating Nebraska by 5 TD's when we play them. Congrats on your tradition, but we are going to thump the cornhumpers again next year, too.
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I don't want "tradition." I want to win every game going forward. OU doesn't sit around and talk about the past; they want to win now. "Tradition" is only as good as the support/players it helps you to accumulate. NU has fans and facilities due to their tradition. MU has facilities and talent and is rebuilding the fanbase, tradition or no.
OU is happy to talk about their past. However, I wouldn't trade the Huskers' tradition for the Sooners'. They can keep their probation violations.

I'm not emphasizing tradition because NU is down. The point is Mizzou isn't as great as their fans think. Mizzou fans made Saturday's game more dramatic than it was going to be. Right now, Nebraska is where Mizzou usually has been.
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Right now, Nebraska is where Mizzou usually has been.

Get used to it.
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OU is happy to talk about their past. However, I wouldn't trade the Huskers' tradition for the Sooners'. They can keep their probation violations.

I'm not emphasizing tradition because NU is down. The point is Mizzou isn't as great as their fans think. Mizzou fans made Saturday's game more dramatic than it was going to be. Right now, Nebraska is where Mizzou usually has been.

Again, this whole thread is sour grapes. Shut the **** up and go cheer for your shitty as team and ugly ****ing coach.
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OU is happy to talk about their past. However, I wouldn't trade the Huskers' tradition for the Sooners'. They can keep their probation violations.

I'm not emphasizing tradition because NU is down. The point is Mizzou isn't as great as their fans think. Mizzou fans made Saturday's game more dramatic than it was going to be. Right now, Nebraska is where Mizzou usually has been.
Stop living in the past...yeah great they won in 1997, no one cares now....back it up by being the powerhouse again. Goodluck getting a lawrence phillips and tommie frazier to run the option with success now.
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